[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - March 2011

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Wed Mar 23 23:40:09 EDT 2011

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Gary Buhrmaster
<gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 00:40, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
> ....
>> I have heard from a number of people the concern that some legacy
>> holders are reluctant to sign an LRSA because they perceive it to
>> require giving up rights to use the address space as they see fit.
> ...
>> So I think the question is whether the community thinks it would be
>> worthwhile for ARIN to develop a process to validate an address
>> holder's legitimacy, the same way they do for the LRSA today, but then
>> simply provide some sort of pre-qualification document to the holder
>> while he goes out looking for a party to transfer the block to.
>> Ideally, IMO, this pre-qualification could be upgraded to a full LRSA
>> with just a couple signatures (i.e. when the 8.3 transfer transaction
>> is otherwise approved).
>> Thoughts?
> Would an organization that wants to preserve some (potential
> perceived) rights by not signing an LRSA intend to use the ARIN
> transfer process?
> It is probably true that everyone has a price, and at a high
> enough offer an organizations point of view can be altered,
> but if the offers of compensation that use the ARIN transfer
> process get high enough, those that were previously reluctant
> will swam to ARIN to sign the LRSA to "cash in" quickly while
> they still can (if they ever intended to so).

I suspect there are some who think they can get higher prices
transferring outside the ARIN process.  Time (and likely lawsuits)
will tell if they're right.

But I'm more interested in those who aren't sure if they want to be in
the ARIN system, but are more than willing to find a willing buyer and
sign an LRSA to cover their space (for 5 minutes while they finalize
an 8.3 transfer that's already approved).  But to get to that point,
they need to prove to potential transfer recipients that they're the
legitimate holder of the address space they say they have.

I'd rather make it as easy as possible for such folks to transfer
their space to someone who needs it, is willing to pay for it, and is
willing to work within the system (under RSA).


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