[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-137 Global Policy for post exhaustion IPv4 allocation mechanisms by the IANA

John Springer springer at inlandnet.com
Thu Mar 17 14:06:53 EDT 2011

Hi David,

Just to you, not the list:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, David Farmer wrote:

> On 3/13/11 15:08 CDT, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
>> No, I would like to take whatever measures necessary to make sure that
>> IANA never touches IPv4 space, ever again.
>> Jeff
> Too late, IANA still has some bits of IPv4.
> From the transcript of the APNIC meeting three weeks ago;
>> Leo Vegoda: We actually appear to have about a /20 in bits and pieces of 
>> /24, which I think would be the seed for any reclamation pool were such a 
>> policy to be passed.
>> Of course, if people don't want us to allocate those eight, I think it is, 
>> /24s, then we can probably just pass them out to staff and, you know, sort 
>> it out that way. In any case, we do have very small bits currently waiting 
>> for a policy. It's not really very much, so you probably don't want to go 
>> through a lot of effort just to get that /20. In any case, there is some 
>> space in /24s and no one is using it at the moment.
> Should we leave them in jail at IANA? Or, put together a simple policy that 
> allows them out of jail to be put to use?

I hope you won't be offended, but in the race to find the smallest 
possible item of V4 concern, this seems pretty close to the theoretical 

I don't have a strong opinion about this proposal, but citing the 
existance of these addresses as rationale one way or the other seems 

I'd rather have IANA hang on to them.

John Springer

>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Matthew Petach<mpetach at netflight.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jeffrey Lyon
>>> <jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net>  wrote:
>>>> .. but they shouldn't be returned to IANA so we don't need a mechanism
>>>> for ensuring that anything happens when, in theory, the undesirable
>>>> occurs.
>>>> I'm still opposed.
>>>> Best regards, Jeff
>>> *heh*
>>> So, you'd rather any addresses that happen to end up back with
>>> IANA get stranded there in perpetuity?
>>> *shrug*  I guess that's one more push for people to move to v6 instead. 
>>> ;-P
>>> Matt
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