[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2011-5: Shared Transition Space for IPv4 Address Extension - IAB comment

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Wed Jun 29 09:53:11 EDT 2011

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>> no it isn't. there is a tangible difference between a
>>scenario where something will not be configured and
>>therefore will never fail and a, something which fires
>>packets into the ether becuase it doesn't know any
>>better. LSN is here, allocating a new prefix or squatting
>>on public scope prefixes will break some fraction of old
>>cpe (it does today) in worse way then allocating them
>>out of private scope prefixes (for which they already
>>have logic) until they age out of the network.
> Due to the support issues, no provider in their right
> mind is going to use 1918 space for the middle-layer
> in a NAT444 scenario.

Hi Owen,

I wouldn't say -no- ISPs will use RFC1918 space for their NAT444
deployments. ISPs are a diverse bunch of folks. What's certain is:

1. Many if not most ISPs will use public scope prefixes inside the
NATted part of their deployments whether we provide a shared space for
it or not, and

2. Regardless of the disposition of 2011-5, the vendors and protocol
authors who made assumptions about NAT based on the assigned IP
address are about to get an object lesson in respecting the corner

Bill Herrin

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