[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2011-1 - Inter-RIR Transfers - Shepherd's Inquiry

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Wed Jun 22 15:55:36 EDT 2011

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I *think* I agree with what Bill is saying.  ARIN should be free to do inter-RIR transfers with caveats.  IMHO the transfers should not be longer than /8 unless they complete a /8 for the receiver, and there should be no transfers if ARIN has a current or foreseeable need.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of William Herrin
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:03 PM
> To: Chris Grundemann
> Cc: arin ppml; Robert E. Seastrom
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2011-1 - Inter-RIR Transfers -
> Shepherd's Inquiry
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:43, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> >> I'd say that points 2 and 3 is what consensus looks like.
> >
> > Exactly.
> Hi Chris,
> Then what's your beef with what Marty said? I saw the part where he
> claimed the proposal on the table does not have consensus. He's right.
> Did I miss some other part where he claimed there was no consensus to
> pursue development of an acceptable inter-RIR transfer process?
> Even I want to see inter-RIR transfers. I just don't want to see them
> directly or indirectly drain ARIN's remaining free pool. Vague
> statements on the principles of need don't get that job done. Neither
> do proposals containing obvious poison pills for APNIC.
> And frankly I'm very against creating global policy that restricts RIR
> choices in a sidewise manner. This is a little like the federal law
> the revokes highway funds for any state that doesn't set the drinking
> age at 21. What happens five years from now when *we* see the wisdom
> of stepping away from what by then could be an expensive nuisance
> justification process for IPv4 transfers?
> Regardless, there is most emphatically no consensus that 2011-1 should
> be the law of the land and it would be inappropriate to move it last
> call at this time.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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