[arin-ppml] Update for pp149 Improved Transparency for Directed Transfers

[Kevin Kargel]

I actually wouldn't mind seeing the source ASN in the data.  The destination ASN is trivial to find so is a non issue.  I don't see why this would be an issue, if an ASN is afraid of anyone noticing they are transferring blocks there is probably a reason for that the community should be aware of anyway.

This is not a deal breaker in any way shape or form and would not affect my support.  Just to satisfy my curiosity.  

Kevin


 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Owen DeLong
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:42 AM
> To: David Farmer
> Cc: arin ppml
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Update for pp149 Improved Transparency for
> Directed Transfers
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:34 PM, David Farmer wrote:
> 
> > On 6/2/11 18:48 CDT, Owen DeLong wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jun 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, David Farmer<farmer at umn.edu>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 6/2/11 15:52 CDT, Owen DeLong wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 2, 2011, at 1:07 PM, David Farmer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Owen,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would like to clarify something, the intent is to publish a
> >>>>> list of resources (the numbers) that have been transferred and
> >>>>> any resources disaggregated as part of transfers.  Similar to
> >>>>> the list of micro allocations that have been made, see;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.arin.net/knowledge/micro_allocations.html
> >>>>>
> >>>> Yes, but, in this case, I think that dates are also vital data.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not seeing why the date is vital, could you explain your
> >>> reasoning?
> >>>
> >>
> >> To prevent breaking smaller networks that have been online for years
> >> by limiting prefix sizes overall it will be necessary to be able to
> >> tell recent deaggregation apart from earlier segmentation.
> >
> > I see how having the date for each transfer would let you differentiate
> between transfers on the list, earlier transfers verses later transfers.
> But, how does the date of the transfer help you differentiate between
> disaggregation from transfers verses earlier segmentation?
> >
> 
> It's unclear where in time the breaking point will occur, so, it may
> be some network operators want to allow smaller prefixes from
> some earlier transfers. If we have the date, the network operators
> can make the decision. If we don't, then they can't.
> 
> Owen
> 
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