[arin-ppml] Update for pp149 Improved Transparency for Directed Transfers

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu Jun 2 19:48:36 EDT 2011



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On Jun 2, 2011, at 2:54 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:

> On 6/2/11 15:52 CDT, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2011, at 1:07 PM, David Farmer wrote:
>> 
>>> Owen,
>>> 
>>> I would like to clarify something, the intent is to publish a list of resources (the numbers) that have been transferred and any resources disaggregated as part of transfers.  Similar to the list of micro allocations that have been made, see;
>>> 
>>> https://www.arin.net/knowledge/micro_allocations.html
>>> 
>> Yes, but, in this case, I think that dates are also vital data.
> 
> I'm not seeing why the date is vital, could you explain your reasoning?
> 

To prevent breaking smaller networks that have been online for years by limiting prefix sizes overall it will be necessary to be able to tell recent deaggregation apart from earlier segmentation. 
>>> Further, the intent is not to publish a list of the parties involved in the transfers as well.
>>> 
>> 
>> I don't care one way or the other about this. Obviously, by publishing the list, one
>> can associate the numbers in the list with whois entries to determine the identities
>> if one wishes. I don't have a problem with identifying the parties, but, it is not a
>> specific goal of this policy. I think that it would be impossible to usefully anonymize
>> the parties and still preserve the integrity of what needs to be disclosed.
> 
> I'm not looking to anonymize anything, but I don't see a valid need to include the identities of the parties in this list either.  If someone wants to look each one up, more power to them.
> 
>> Owen
> 
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