[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-131: Section 5.0 Legacy Addresses

STARNES, CURTIS Curtis.Starnes at granburyisd.org
Mon Jan 31 08:05:55 EST 2011

Thanks Bill,
I went back and re-read this section before I received your email and picked your explanation up on the second reading.
It makes sense, from an ISP's stand point, allocating resources rather than my just consuming resources from an end-users perspective and the differences in the yearly fees; $500.00 is not much compared to what ISP's have to pay in yearly recurring costs in ARIN fees.

Thanks for the explanation.  As an end-user, the verbage that makes the resources available to members, I would be opposed to.

As a normal end-user of IP address space, the wording of the prop 131 would exclude organizations like ours from being able to apply for any of the returned IPv4 resources.

Curtis Starnes
Granbury Independent School District

-----Original Message-----
From: wherrin at gmail.com [mailto:wherrin at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:36 AM
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-131: Section 5.0 Legacy Addresses

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:12 AM, STARNES, CURTIS <Curtis.Starnes at granburyisd.org> wrote:
> Ok, now I have a question about your response regarding ARIN membership.
> We are an end-user with a /42 IPv6 address block and an ASN assigned 
> to us, which we pay end-user fees for.According to the membership 
> defined page (https://www.arin.net/participate/membership/member.html 
> ) this qualifies my organization to be a General Member of ARIN.
> According to your statement below, my organization is not a member of ARIN?
> We have received and paid for direct allocation of IP address space.
> So, am I missing something here?

Maybe. Quoting:

An entity becomes a General Member of ARIN in one of two ways.

    * Membership is accorded automatically when you receive and pay the associated fees for a direct ALLOCATION of IP address space.
    * Any entity that has a signed RSA or Legacy RSA and has received a direct ASSIGNMENT of address space, an AS number, an experimental allocation, or any combination of resources and is currently paying an annual maintenance fee to ARIN may choose to become a member by completing the membership application form. There is an ANNUAL FEE of
$500.00 for membership.

Allocation = ISP/LIR. Pays the $1250+ every year.
Assignment = end user. Pays the $1250+ once and then pays $100/year.

So, as an end-user resource holder you're qualified to become a member with a $500/yr annual fee. But you are not automatically a member like an ISP is.

Bill Herrin

William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com  bill at herrin.us
3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 .

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