[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-127: Shared Transition Space for IPv4 Address Extension

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu Jan 20 17:06:04 EST 2011

Anyone who has looked at NAT44...4 in any detail realizes that nothing yet seen is likely to be a stronger motivation for a provider to move to IPv6 than their support experiences and the related poor user experiences that are offered by NaT44...4.


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On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:22 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Mark Smith
> <ipng at 69706e6720323030352d30312d31340a.nosense.org> wrote:
>> Why should the global Internet community (i.e. the end-users of
>> the Internet) have to help wear the costs of individual ISPs not
>> deploying IPv6 quickly enough?
> Hi Mark,
> It seems to me that "whose fault is it?" matters less than "what do we
> do now?" What we do now is lessen the transition problems (so that the
> end users don't get screwed in the short term) while moving forward on
> the transition as quickly as practicable (so that the end users don't
> get screwed in the long term).
> Do you disagree?
>> Helping ISPs avoid those costs turns the
>> situation into one of a Moral Hazard. It won't encourage IPv6
>> adoption; it'll delay it because both the incentive to do so, and the
>> consequence of not doing so, are reduced.
> Shall we encourage the patient not to hurt himself by setting the bone
> but refusing him pain medication? Sounds positively monstrous to me.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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