[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-126: Compliance Requirement

Jack Bates jbates at brightok.net
Wed Jan 12 11:15:43 EST 2011

On 1/11/2011 10:20 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:

> So people are lazy,  therefore have  incomplete or out of date
> reassignment info,
> is that what you are implying?

Depends on what you consider incomplete or out of date. My whois info, 
which is mostly the original allocations from ARIN entries and perhaps a 
regional based entry (used for my own tracking and to indicate to law 
enforcement subpoena information on a telco basis) is very accurate. All 
contacts are the same. There's no reason to provide more information to 
the community, as the only additional information which might be 
provided is the size of each pop DHCP pool or business assignment, which 
only servers to provide extra information they should have to work to 
gain knowledge of (for whatever nefarious purposes they want to know 
it). Otherwise, they can happily contact us as the users of the space 
and front end service desk to our customers.

> That would be a reason to consider implementing a proposal such as PP126 or
> something similar, not a reason to abandon it, because it would be evidence
> that the policy measures currently provided  are not sufficient  in
> themselves to
> induce compliance with the policy,  even by orgs who are innocent of fraud.

The proposal only adds additional functions and changes time to current 
policy. The functions that exist are good enough. If it is serious 
enough for ARIN to revoke rDNS, then it is serious enough for them to 
revoke the entire allocation/assignment.

> As you say "The only time I do paperwork is when I have to do paperwork."
> That would  suggest the  re-assignment policies currently in effect,
> and contact
> information  requirements would only be effective with robust enforcement
> measures.

ARIN doesn't overly enforce them now when new allocations are requested. 
A single generic level of SWIPs generally need to exist, and they are 
happy. After that, they'll ask for the details of a specific block 
(usually the last allocated) in the usual host/service layout. The goal 
of section 12 is about utilizing space from what I've gathered; not that 
someone didn't issue a whois for every little assignment.


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