[arin-ppml] Semi-serious proposal to start 2011

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Mon Jan 3 14:02:24 EST 2011

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Martin Hannigan
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 12:36 PM
> To: Tony Hain
> Cc: arin ppml
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Semi-serious proposal to start 2011
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Tony Hain <alh-ietf at tndh.net> wrote:
> > There is a simple way to deal with all the list noise on pp124 & 125, as
> > well as reduce the wasted time and energy of the ARIN staff while we are
> at
> > it .... Transfer all remaining ARIN IPv4 resources in a split between
> Lacnic
> > & Afrinic today, and move on. The useless efforts to micromanage the end
> of
> > the pool are not doing anyone any good, and certainly not motivating the
> > deployment of IPv6 as much as a solid 'sorry we have no more' answer
> from
> > ARIN would.
> >
> > It is time to stop focusing on the past and just let it go.
> >
> Tony,
> Noone disagrees with you. 124M addresses is not really crumbs either.
> The cost of replacing that address space for the members is
> half-billion dollars. Noone really knows what it is going to be
> tomorrow. But more importantly, what 124 and 125 are saying is "yes",
> get rid of it, but now we need to get everyone unified and moving to
> v6 *fast* so that we can cut our expenses. Effectively, exact same
> thing except not enriching parties unnecessarily.
> Best,
> -M<
My basic feeling is that some people will move early because it is fun and they are adventurous, some will move because they can see the business advantage to being a front runner, but most people will move when they have to and not before.  

Artificial pricing structures and taxes and artificial roadblocks are almost always bad.

It is not ARIN's responsibility to ensure that individual networks transition smoothly.  All ARIN can do is make the information available and hope that people take advantage of it.  

My forecast:
Bolstering an artificial IP market to try and do some profit taking will be a great disservice to the community. I am convinced it will happen because the greedy people are more motivated to make it so than the rest of us are to prevent it. Once IP's are declared property (if you can trade it or buy it or sell it or rent it or lease it then it is manageable as property, no matter how strenuously you protest) then government regulation and taxation will be soon to follow.  Bad things will happen after that.  

IMHO the best thing we could do is to maintain the current SOP and let IPv4 experience a steady predictable runout.  Any attempts at micro-managing the runout will only rearrange the inevitable and create chaos and will have only minor if any affect on the runout date.


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