[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-131: Section 5.0 Legacy Addresses

[Owen DeLong]

NRPM 8 does not make a distinction about legacy vs. non-legacy
addresses, so, I'm not sure why you think that RIR-issued v4
addresses (sanctioned is a very poor choice of terminology
for them) will not be part of the fluid v4 economy.

I see no reason to maintain any distinction, especially since
once they go through one round of this policy or one round
under section 8, they become non-legacy addresses.

Owen

On Jan 31, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:

> It's consistent with terms in the NRPM and with respect to the "L"RSA.
> It's not the regular v4 pool and at least in the interim I think it's
> unwise to mix policy across the spectrum with arin or rir-speak.
> "Sanctioned" v4 addresses are not going to be part of the fluid v4
> economy, but former IANA addresses will be. There is going to be a
> level of distinction required hence "section 5.0". Continued policy
> writing with respect to, for lack of a better term -- normalized
> addresses,  should become sparse as time wears on. At least one would
> hope.
> 
> Ideas welcomed.
> 
> Best.
> 
> -M<
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Tony Hain <alh-ietf at tndh.net> wrote:
>> Taking Owen's point a little further; IPv4 is 'legacy', so it is
>> redundant...
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>>> Behalf Of Owen DeLong
>>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 3:31 PM
>>> To: Martin Hannigan
>>> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
>>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-131: Section 5.0 Legacy Addresses
>>> 
>>> In the spirit of less is more, may I suggest that you remove the word
>>> Legacy
>>> from both the title and the sentence.
>>> 
>>> Owen
>>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:54 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:02 PM, cja at daydream.com
>>> <packetgrrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Martin Hannigan
>>> <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you think that this will suffice?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Upon expiration of the hold period and in the absence of a Global
>>>>>>> Policy or Globally Coordinated Policy directing otherwise, legacy
>>>>>>> resources returned to ARIN will be made available for allocation."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think it should say "made available for allocation or assignment"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Right. Allocation and assignment are loaded words in ARIN-speak. If
>>>>> you specify the one but not the other in policy, you restrict the
>>>>> usage of those addresses. You could also say something like "made
>>>>> available for registration," without using either of the two loaded
>>>>> words.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In the interest of over simplicity, I think that version 2.0 might be
>>>> more clear stating:
>>>> 
>>>> "Legacy IPv4 addresses returned to or recovered by ARIN will be made
>>>> available for registration within thirty days of their receipt."
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with you with respect to more words, but in this case, I
>>> think
>>>> that less is more.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> -M<
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