[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-131: Section 5.0 Legacy Addresses

[STARNES, CURTIS]

Ok, thanks Owen

-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 11:15 AM
To: STARNES, CURTIS
Cc: Kevin Blumberg; bill at herrin.us; hannigan at gmail.com; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-131: Section 5.0 Legacy Addresses

If you are paying end-user fees, then you received a direct assignment, not an allocation.
An allocation is to an ISP for them to subdivide to their subscribers through the reallocation and reassignment processes.

Owen

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:12 AM, STARNES, CURTIS wrote:

> Ok, now I have a question about your response regarding ARIN membership.
> 
> We are an end-user with a /42 IPv6 address block and an ASN assigned to us, which we pay end-user fees for.
> According to the membership defined page (https://www.arin.net/participate/membership/member.html ) this qualifies my organization to be a General Member of ARIN.
> 
> According to your statement below, my organization is not a member of ARIN?
> We have received and paid for direct allocation of IP address space.
> So, am I missing something here?
> 
> Curtis Starnes
> Senior Network Administrator
> Granbury ISD
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] 
> On Behalf Of Kevin Blumberg
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 5:19 PM
> To: bill at herrin.us; hannigan at gmail.com
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-131: Section 5.0 Legacy Addresses
> 
> Marty,
> 
> I support the proposal. I understand William's concern. Would a change to the text to read "will be made available for allocation and assignment within the ARIN Region." work?
> 
> 
> Kevin Blumberg
> The Wire Inc.
> 416.214.9473
> www.thewire.ca
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net>
> To: Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Sent: Thu Jan 27 17:36:30 2011
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-131: Section 5.0 Legacy Addresses
> 
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:06 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>>> Two obvious problems:
>>> 
>>> 1. ARIN members aren't the only registrants.
>> 
>> Explain?
> 
> Hi Marty,
> 
> Although end-user registrants, legacy-only registrants and registrants holding only non-IP resources may become ARIN members by paying an additional $500/year, they rarely do. With a few exceptions, only ISPs are ARIN members.
> 
> The basic difference between a member and a non-member is that members can vote in the elections while everybody else merely receives resources.
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 
> 
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