[arin-ppml] Alternative to proposal 125: Requiring IPv6 planning for IPv4 allocations

[Owen DeLong]

You have to publicly post your support for the petition.

You can send your contact details privately in parallel to your public
statement of support, but, you have to provide both your statement
of support (which must be public) and your contact details (which
can be private) in order for support of a petition to be counted.

(At least that is my understanding of the process).

Owen

On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> The Suggestion:
> 
> The reason why I am supporting "some" iteration of 125 is that one of
> it's benefits is that it requires a measure of cost sharing across the
> board which is likely to end up being much more burdensome to all
> without something along the lines of 125. Much of the discussion about
> 125 has been related to cost and demonstrates some of the inequities
> in our policies. 125 seems to be somewhat of a right sizing albeit
> theoretically could be a degree or two too far to the right. Your
> modification doesn't seem to do anything significant other than
> instill a false sense of security in applicants that are likely to do
> nothing without some requirements.
> 
> Aside from completely throwing out the intent of 125 as you did with
> your modification, how would you contribute to make 125 more palatable
> and continue to allow it to have some level of bite, a real result for
> all of the effort that we're going to have to go through with respect
> to IPv6 transition?
> 
> 
> Staff,
> 
> The Petition:
> 
> I was about to remark that everyone should be reminded that you do not
> have to post publicly to support a petition due to the level of
> causticity of the subject, but I'm unclear if that's the case. I had
> responded privately to a petition previously and I believe it was
> counted, but don't recall being told otherwise.  I checked the PDP and
> it seems vague with respect to any requirement to post to PPML. The
> interpretation that a response to ARIN directly should suffice would
> be reasonable IMHO.
> 
>    https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
> 
> Could someone on the staff clarify that please?
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> -M<
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Given the contentious discussions around proposal 125, I'm getting the
>> sense that even if its petition succeeds, it'll be too controversial
>> to gain consensus.  So I thought it might be worth posting an
>> alternative I drafted, and see what kind of reaction it gets.  I don't
>> intend to introduce this into the policy process myself (as I'm not
>> convinced it's necessary), but if anyone (particularly supporters of
>> 125) feel that it would be a step in the right direction, feel free to
>> do so.
>> 
>> I'd also be interested to hear if anyone would be opposed to this
>> language, and if so, what aspects you object to.  And, as always,
>> suggestions for improvement would be most welcome as well.
>> 
>> -Scott (speaking only for myself)
>> 
>> 4.1.8  IPv6 transition
>> 
>> All organizations requiring IPv4 addresses for Internet connectivity
>> or services must demonstrate a plan for interoperating with IPv6-only
>> portions of the Internet.  Components of such plans might include, but
>> are not limited to: receiving IPv6 address space and using it for
>> dual-stack or parallel IPv6 deployment; or making use of translation
>> technologies to allow communication between IPv4 and IPv6 hosts.
>> 
>> 4.2.1.7  IPv6 connectivity
>> 
>> ISPs requiring IPv4 addresses from ARIN must demonstrate a plan for
>> connecting their customers with IPv6-only portions of the Internet, as
>> detailed in section 4.1.8.
>> 
>> 4.3.7  IPv6 transition
>> 
>> End-users requiring IPv4 addresses from ARIN must demonstrate a plan
>> for interoperating with IPv6-only portions of the Internet, as
>> detailed in section 4.1.8.
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