[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-136 Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated Address Blocks

Chris Grundemann cgrundemann at gmail.com
Thu Feb 24 19:25:08 EST 2011

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 16:16, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

> Fact: Some people are so stuck in the mindset that ARIN and only ARIN can offer a Whois service that they are missing the point of this proposal.

Most people (particularly those who operate networks) understand that
ARIN does an adequate (and improving) job of providing the Whois
service for this region and see no reason to 'fix what aint broken.'

> Are you aware of the request by a prospective competitor for bulk access to Whois so that it can be reconciled with an alternate provider and maintain a globally consistent directory?


> AFAICT, the fragmentation is already here. There are many legacy holders, including my university, who haven't updated their ARIN whois records since the 1990s.

OK, what should lead any of us to believe that organizations who have
not bothered to update records for free for over two decades would
jump up and start paying to do it with someone other than ARIN?

(As a bit of an aside, SYR-UNIV-NET was updated in 2009, the
affiliated org was updated in 2004 and two of the four POCs were
updated just last year:

More to the point, this is an issue that ARIN is actively addressing,
under guidance from the community. See:


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