[arin-ppml] Use of the specified transfer policy (was: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers)

Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Tue Feb 15 18:59:45 EST 2011


On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> I suggest that the term fraud is detracting from the purpose of the report.
>
> Perhaps an ARIN policy violation report would be more useful.
>
> Owen
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 15, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I didn't answer this question since I wanted to think about it. The
>>>> unfortunate answer here is that transfer policy already doesn't apply
>>>> to legacy holders from their perspective so hoping that they will sign
>>>> an agreement seems less than efficient.
>>>
>>> The transfer policy applies to all resources in ARIN's Whois Database.
>>> If you are aware of an attempt to contravene number resource policy,
>>> please submit a fraud report here: <https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/index.html>
>>> and we'll take care of it.
>>>
>>
>> I would, but it appears that we're all disconnected as to what fraud
>> with respect to legacy resources actually is:
>>
>>
>> https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/results/third_quarter_2010.html
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -M<
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Owen,

I think that would ultimately depend on whether the term "fraud" is
being used to refer to deceit  (eg. sending false and misleading data
to ARIN) or to simple failures to follow prescribed procedure.

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