[arin-ppml] Use of the specified transfer policy

Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Tue Feb 15 17:34:54 EST 2011

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:27 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> John, I think one possible difficulty on the fraud issue is that unlike
>> both the civil and criminal justice system (in the united states, at any
>> rate) none of the fraud proceedings are public.
>> If someone submits fraud evidence or even a strong suspicion based on
>> research in the whois database + direct experience, is there feedback?
> A fraud report results in a NRPM 12 resource review, and the address holder
> is an integral part of the review process.
>> Are they included in the investigation?  If there is wrongdoing discovered
>> are they informed of any punishments meted out?  Without this, it is
>> understandable that people would feel fraud reports are going into a black
>> hole - and the lack of publicity also does not create examples of what is
>> and what isn't allowed.  Most human beings learn by example.
> The resource holder is informed of any action, and we produce summary
> reports for the community on the fraud reporting page.
>> Martin, keep in mind that ARIN has no legal contract between it and
>> a true "Legacy" resource holder as they never signed anything with them,
>> and ARIN is not a governmental body.  It thus has little ability to bring
>> proceedings against a legacy holder who is violating ARIN's NRPM
> No proceedings are necessary to correct entries in the ARIN Whois database.
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
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I sent a fraud report late last year. It took weeks to be acknowledged
and so far all I know about that report is that you have it. I don't
feel like an integral part of the process?

Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net
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