[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - January 2011

cja@daydream.com packetgrrl at gmail.com
Thu Feb 3 21:31:01 EST 2011


I am sorry you feel that the AC brusquely disposes of policy proposals.  We
actually aren't hasty. We spend a lot of time debating and discussing and
attempting to do the best job we can for the community.  We get input from
proposers, ppml, legal counsel, and ARIN staff.   We came to the conclusion
after much debate and discussion that 2009-8 should not move forward.  If
you feel strongly that it should then please petition it.


On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:31 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
> > Yes, but the current policy (2009-8) activated today with IANA
> exhaustion,
> > it would have taken emergency action to prevent that.  Or are you
> suggestion
> > we should go down to three months, back to twelve months, and then back
> down
> > to three months again?  Honestly, that doesn't sound like a good idea to
> me.
> David,
> That might have been a good reason for bouncing it. But "there isn't
> time" is  disingenuous. There's always time.
> It sets me off when a member of the AC (or the AC as a whole)
> announces that there isn't time for something. Not enough time to get
> this through the process. Too many proposals, not enough time to work
> on this one. Call it a pet peeve.
> Many of you are past your first terms. If you couldn't figure out how
> to make time, you shouldn't have run for reelection. You know: lead,
> follow or ::get out of the way::. Those of you past your first terms
> did run for reelection. So now it's just a wussy excuse.
> This is part of another irritant for me as well: I find the brusque
> way the AC disposes of proposals it decides to abandon to be
> disrespectful to their authors. A proposal author has spent  hours
> behind the scenes carefully crafting language, researching process and
> writing justification. When you make the decision instead of leaving
> it to consensus, simple courtesy demands at least a paragraph from
> each of you explaining why the proposal wasn't good enough.
> -Bill
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