[arin-ppml] Borders sells their /16 block

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Wed Dec 7 17:59:39 EST 2011

On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:

> I was just thinking and in this context it was about how to additional
> monetize IPv4 assets. At this point I'd be looking at _all_ bankruptcy
> proceedings to make sure that nothing has been lost in "registration"
> and insuring that parties knew about lost v4 assets and perhaps
> conducting business on a finders fee basis. It sort of dawned on me
> that this would apply to non-legacy space for transfer as well,
> wouldn't it?

There are parties doing this; several of them are registered as
facilitators under STLS.  As I noted earlier, we're getting an
increasing number of parties who are actively seeking ARIN out and
incorporating the appropriate language in their sale documents.

> I mean, if you can sell legacy assets without
> interference from ARIN for the most part, can't you also transfer
> non-legacy assets without too much interference from ARIN?

Specified transfers are available per NRPM 8.3 for any IPv4 address 
space in the region, whether allocated directly by ARIN or legacy. 

> While there is an agreement (and I'll sign up for your IANAL disclaimer
> as welland I hope other non lawyers may too), but there seems to be a
> distinct possibility that this has far more implications than just
> legacy addresses, at least in bankruptcy.

You may be seeing something therein which eludes the rest of us;
it appears that the bankruptcy system is becoming quite aware of
appropriate handling of IP address blocks, even to the point of 
ARIN now routine getting notice in advance of various hearings.


John Curran
President and CEO

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