[arin-ppml] Borders sells their /16 block

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 23:41:25 EST 2011

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:21 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:

I said:

"I don't see a reference to court docs in the article that Mike referred to."

>>> Obtained by reading the linked references in the article Mike referred to.
>> I'm inspired to be pedantic this evening. I'll bite.
>> This URL, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/05/borders_flogs_ipv4_addys/
>> - led to this URL
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/24/microsoft_ip_spend/ - and this
>> - https://www.arin.net/about_us/media/releases/20110415.html - and
>> this - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/21/trade_ipv4_com/

[ .. ]

> which leads to this -
> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110419_ipv4_addresses_not_property_canada_weighs_in_on_nortel_microsoft/
> which leads to this -
> http://www.circleid.com/posts/201112_borders_in_bankruptcy_aims_to_sell_65536_ipv4_addresses/
> which mentions both the domaincite blog and the court document posting.

[ .. ]

>> Must be a hidden URL. :-)

Makes sense. :-)  We'll agree to continue to disagree here.

>> The article is also inaccurate. It states "This is only the second
>> time a company has sold IP addresses in this way" which is in error.
>> It's true that this is the second time that I recall that the US
>> bankruptcy courts have been used to put a transaction outside of
>> ARIN's control, but there have been others over the years.
> Characterizing it as "outside of ARIN's control" when there is an
> explicit ARIN consent requirement seems to be disingenuous.  Again,
> are you basing your view on just the offering memorandum or the
> actual filed court document?

"While the Debtors believe that this Court has the authority to
authorize the sale of the Internet Addresses over any such objection
by ARIN"

Who was it that said "doveryai, no proveryai"? I am looking forward to
seeing the final outcome and reading the related documents. Additional
responses without ARIN being fully transparent are pointless.

FYI, and best!


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