[arin-ppml] Borders sells their /16 block

Benson Schliesser bensons at queuefull.net
Wed Dec 7 19:04:52 EST 2011


Hi, John.

On Dec 7, 2011, at 4:06 PM, John Curran wrote:

> [...]  You should recognize that my responses will 
> be based on ARIN's view

I understand that you must respond on ARIN's behalf. And, believe it or not, I don't usually hold it against you. :) I do, however, worry about the conflation of ARIN, the ARIN membership, the PPML community, and the Internet community. This is why I advocate the way I do - and I hope you won't hold that against me. ;)

> that address holders do have certain rights (such 
> as exclusive right to be the registrant of the address space within the 
> ARIN registry database as well as the exclusive right to transfer the 
> registration of the space), but that those rights intersect other rights 
> with respect to the same registrations.  The policies adopted in the 
> region are the basis by which we will manage the registry and hence 
> the intersection of these rights.

This mostly seems reasonable. All property rights under the law have limits. But a few issues come to mind... I'll ignore the more argumentative questions for now, and just focus on a single issue that might actually influence current policy:  If the seller has the exclusive right to transfer (a given block), then how could another party (such as ARIN) legally "reclaim" the addresses? Wouldn't the seller have to "transfer" them to ARIN in this case?

Thanks,
-Benson




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