[arin-ppml] Borders sells their /16 block Was: Re: References to NNI court documents

[Martin Hannigan]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:59 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> On Dec 7, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>
>> Thanks, now I know that  you too know where they are. :-) I asked you
>> to take the time to backup your reference with a cite so I think we
>> now have established that you can in fact do that if you so choose.
>
> Martin -
>
> I said "In Nortel, the actual court document was approved only with
> affirmation that the recipient had entered into a registration services
> agreement with ARIN. "
>

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> --- In Document B (Revised Proposed Order), bottom of page 4 -
> " I. Purchaser has represented that it has entered into a Legacy Registration Services Agreement with ARIN with respect to the Internet Numbers (the “LRSA”)."
>
> and it is the 19th written line on that page.  If you have any other
> statements that you question, or need help searching the text, please
> let me know, either publicly or privately.

I think we're still at "polite disagreement". As Benson noted, I'll
point out too that neither of us are lawyers.

It does not actually say what you are representing. In context, what
transpired in Nortel is that ARIN worked out an agreement and it was
codified in the documents voluntarily. Much like Borders, Nortel was
based in a US bankruptcy court. The Borders statement that Borders had
believed that it wasn't necessary to obtain ARIN's approval would
apply to the Nortel proceeding as well. Your response is out of
context and as far as I can discern, not directly citeable, at least
not to people who prefer to be clear and concise in their responses.
There's pretty much no way to intimate what you are stating.

Until there's something useful to respond to, I think this thread is
pretty much beaten to death.

Best!

-M<