[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-156 Update 8.3 to allow inter-RIR transfers

Paul Wilson pwilson at apnic.net
Tue Aug 23 17:25:39 EDT 2011

I have some practical questions about this policy proposal.  

Is it proposed that ARIN staff would conduct a full need-based assessment of the each recipient, even in another region, including examination of all prior allocations?  

Has there been any consideration of the cost and practicality of this approach?  

Is it possible that a recipient would be asked to pay ARIN to cover the cost of this service?  

Would a registration services agreement be required with ARIN?


Paul Wilson.

On 24/08/2011, at 4:46 AM, ARIN wrote:

> ARIN-prop-156 Update 8.3 to allow inter-RIR transfers
> ARIN received the following policy proposal and is posting it to the
> Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) in accordance with the Policy
> Development Process.
> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
> regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
> scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may be extended
> to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). The AC will decide how
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> ## * ##
> ARIN-prop-156 Update 8.3 to allow inter-RIR transfers
> Proposal Originator: Scott Leibrand
> Date: 23 August 2011
> Proposal type: Modify
> Policy term: Permanent
> Policy statement:
> 8.3. Transfers to Specified Recipients
> In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources may
> be released to ARIN by the authorized resource holder, in whole or in
> part, for transfer:
> + under RSA, to specified organizational recipient(s) within the ARIN
> region that can demonstrate the need for such resources, in the exact
> amount which they can justify under current ARIN policies.
> + to another RIR, for transfer to a specified recipient in that RIR's
> service region who demonstrates plans to deploy the resources for the
> justified purpose within 3 months, as long as the request meets the
> policy requirements of both RIRs, and the recipient (and any
> organizations to which they have transferred or reassigned space) can
> show efficient utilization of all prior allocations, assignments, and
> transfers according to the current policy requirements of both RIRs.
> Rationale:
> A number of RIRs already allow IPv4 address transfers within their
> service regions.  Given that IPv4 address demand is concentrated in
> certain rapidly growing regions,  whereas IPv4 addresses that can be
> made available to supply that demand are concentrated in regions with
> more historical IPv4 deployment, it would be most efficient for
> addresses to be transferred from regions with more supply to regions
> with more demand.  If this is not allowed, prices for IPv4 addresses
> in high-demand regions will be higher, raising overall costs,
> encouraging address holders to transfer addresses outside the RIR
> system, and/or encouraging large corporations to acquire addresses in
> regions with more supply and then use them in regions with more
> demand.  It would be better for the overall Internet industry to allow
> inter-RIR transfers to organizations with demonstrated need for
> addressing for immediate deployment needs.
> This policy text would be intended to replace draft policy 2011-1 ARIN
> Inter-RIR Transfers.
> Timetable for implementation:  Immediate
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