[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-156 Update 8.3 to allow inter-RIR transfers

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Tue Aug 23 20:48:12 EDT 2011


On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Mike Burns <mike at nationwideinc.com> wrote:
> Support, but I would support more with a 12-month justification and it would
> be better with no justification requirement at all.

Thanks.  I'd like to hear input from more folks on what this
requirement should look like.

> This change will allow some Asian companies to participate in legitimate
> transfers with Whois updates, who would otherwise have to take the risks of
> an unbooked sale.
> Would this policy be consistent with the ideas about regional registries
> that was discussed on the list earlier in reference to ICP-2?

Yes, because we're transferring the addresses (under certain
conditions) to another RIR for them to administer in their region.

> Is this change in 8.3 an endrun around the concept of regionality?

I don't believe so.

-Scott


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> Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-156 Update 8.3 to allow inter-RIR transfers
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>
>> ARIN-prop-156 Update 8.3 to allow inter-RIR transfers
>>
>> ARIN received the following policy proposal and is posting it to the
>> Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) in accordance with the Policy
>> Development Process.
>>
>> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
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>> ## * ##
>>
>> ARIN-prop-156 Update 8.3 to allow inter-RIR transfers
>>
>> Proposal Originator: Scott Leibrand
>>
>> Date: 23 August 2011
>>
>> Proposal type: Modify
>>
>> Policy term: Permanent
>>
>> Policy statement:
>>
>> 8.3. Transfers to Specified Recipients
>>
>> In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources may
>> be released to ARIN by the authorized resource holder, in whole or in
>> part, for transfer:
>>
>> + under RSA, to specified organizational recipient(s) within the ARIN
>> region that can demonstrate the need for such resources, in the exact
>> amount which they can justify under current ARIN policies.
>>
>> + to another RIR, for transfer to a specified recipient in that RIR's
>> service region who demonstrates plans to deploy the resources for the
>> justified purpose within 3 months, as long as the request meets the
>> policy requirements of both RIRs, and the recipient (and any
>> organizations to which they have transferred or reassigned space) can
>> show efficient utilization of all prior allocations, assignments, and
>> transfers according to the current policy requirements of both RIRs.
>>
>>
>> Rationale:
>>
>> A number of RIRs already allow IPv4 address transfers within their
>> service regions.  Given that IPv4 address demand is concentrated in
>> certain rapidly growing regions,  whereas IPv4 addresses that can be
>> made available to supply that demand are concentrated in regions with
>> more historical IPv4 deployment, it would be most efficient for
>> addresses to be transferred from regions with more supply to regions
>> with more demand.  If this is not allowed, prices for IPv4 addresses
>> in high-demand regions will be higher, raising overall costs,
>> encouraging address holders to transfer addresses outside the RIR
>> system, and/or encouraging large corporations to acquire addresses in
>> regions with more supply and then use them in regions with more
>> demand.  It would be better for the overall Internet industry to allow
>> inter-RIR transfers to organizations with demonstrated need for
>> addressing for immediate deployment needs.
>>
>> This policy text would be intended to replace draft policy 2011-1 ARIN
>> Inter-RIR Transfers.
>>
>> Timetable for implementation:  Immediate
>>
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