[arin-ppml] Analogies

Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Sat Apr 30 21:02:41 EDT 2011

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:
> On 4/30/2011 5:39 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Owen DeLong<owen at delong.com>  wrote:
>>> I will point out that ARIN is the only registry that did not start
>>> charging their legacy holders shortly after coming into existence.
>>> APNIC, RIPE, AfriNIC, and LACNIC all charge their legacy holders
>>> annual fees to the best of my knowledge.
>>> I do not know whether a contract was required in any or all cases,
>>> but, the fee portion of the equation is unique to ARIN to the best
>>> of my knowledge.
>> Hi Owen,
>> I will suggest that an attempt by ARIN to charge $100/year under a
>> contract simplified to, "We agree to keep your whois data and RDNS
>> delegations intact as is for one year increments until either of us
>> choose to cancel this contract" would meet with at most mild
>> resistance from the legacy registrants. It would also, IMHO, provide
>> an excellent way to weed out the abandoned registrations.
> Now there's a LRSA I might actually sign for my resources... and then I'd
> already be spending $100/year and some end-user IPv6 space would be "free"
> too.
>> This hasn't been done in part because we, in this forum, have insisted
>> that legacy registrants should not be invited into the fold under such
>> terms.
> Bingo. For some vocal parties in this forum, at least.
> Matthew Kaufman
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My sideline observation has been that any suggestion that a legacy
resource holder sign a LRSA in order to obtain some benefit is largely
seen as an attack against said holders who presumably want to receive
any and all benefits without having to maintain a relationship with

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