[arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict of interest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Sat Apr 30 15:38:02 EDT 2011

What higher organizational level?

The Number Resource Organization and Address Supporting Organization roles at the IANA are the collective committee of representatives from the 5 RIRs. Global address policy results from the same policy being passed by all RIRs and then ratified (a formality) at the IANA level. The "higher level organization" is completely and directly controlled by the RIRs, as it should be.


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On Apr 30, 2011, at 14:42, "Mike Burns" <mike at nationwideinc.com> wrote:

> Point taken, although I think there is a huge qualitative difference between regional and commercial RIRs.
> I do not object to ARIN and the other RIRs being heard, but I think the decision should be made by the body at the higher organizational level.
> Regards,
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Curran" <jcurran at arin.net>
> To: "Mike Burns" <mike at nationwideinc.com>
> Cc: "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com>; "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at ipinc.net>; <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict of interest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN
> On Apr 30, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Mike Burns wrote:
>>> I agree with JC, the ASO and constituent RIRs are quite capable of
>>> dealing with this AND manage potential conflict of interest issues
>> What could make somebody think the RIRs are capable of managing conflict of interest?
>> Can you provide some examples where RIRs have made policy which would reduce their control?
> ARIN, along with the two other RIRs at the time (RIPE NCC and
> APNIC) worked together to encourage and help form new RIRs in
> LACNIC and AfriNIC in accordance with ICP-2 as soon as the
> community in those regions expressed the desire and ability
> to support these operations.
> This obviously involved managing the conflict of providing
> services to organizations in those regions directly (your
> first question), and resulted in reduction of control over
> policies and services in those regions (your second point).
> FYI,
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
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