[arin-ppml] Do we have a fundamental conflict in the regionalgoalsfor number resource management?
mike at nationwideinc.com
Fri Apr 29 12:53:13 EDT 2011
>Are you trying to say that a solution which meets
>consistent administration but ignores the other goals is best
>in your view?
Well, consistent administration is a must, wouldn't you say?
As for the other goals, conservation will be maintained by price, and what
does conservation even mean in a post-exhaust world? What is there to
And aggregation is an issue best left to network operators who decide how
small a block they will advertise.
Eventually they will make the cost/benefit analysis based on their routing
table costs. Honestly, in a world where technological advance happens
geometrically (Moore's Law), I think the router manufacturers should be able
to deal with data that grows merely linearly, like the BGP table, but I am
not an expert in this area.
I am not precluding an ARIN role in offering aggregation services to those
listing addresses on STLS for example.
Addresses are fungible, and I suppose if ARIN develops as a registry for an
open market, that opportunities will arise for ARIN to make aggregations
which would inure to the benefits of both buyers and sellers, and would be
voluntarily accepted by both, but who knows? Possibly there will be a role
in an ip market for an aggregation entity, possibly the pricing for
aggregated and de-aggregated addresses will provide an impetus towards
In any case, I don't see where the Microsoft deal, for example provided any
aggregation benefit, despite the needs analysis required.
I apologize for being tiresome by repeating the benefits I see, but this is
a policy development forum and nobody has stepped forward to counter my
perception of those benefits, so I kept putting them out there looking for
some feedback to the contrary.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Curran" <jcurran at arin.net>
To: "Mike Burns" <mike at nationwideinc.com>
Cc: "Public Policy Mailing List" <ppml at arin.net>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Do we have a fundamental conflict in the
regionalgoalsfor number resource management?
On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Mike Burns wrote:
> I think the Venn diagram of goals does intersect between those under
> agreement and those not under agreement in the area of needs
> Eliminating justification for all would have the following advantages to
> both sets of address holders.
Mike, you don't need to repeat the benefits you perceive
that change on each email you send.
Regarding a potential intersection in goals when removing
needs justification, that would certainly meet the consist
administration but that would discard the traditional number
resource management goals of conservation and aggregation,
correct? Are you trying to say that a solution which meets
consistent administration but ignores the other goals is best
in your view?
President and CEO
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