[arin-ppml] Relationships & disclosures (Was: Re: ICP2 and the role of ARIN in an ipv4 address market)

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Thu Apr 21 02:47:25 EDT 2011


   Milton is one of those people who like dropping gravel in the gearbox
just to see what happens.  The fundamental problem with introducing a
for-profit entity like Addrex into the system is that such for-profit
entities can only exist when there is a scarcity of a resource.

   The large IP address consumers like Comcast, Verizon wireless, etc.
simply have address needs that cannot be met even if every speck of
unused or under-used IPv4 was vacuumed out of all of the corners of the
Internet.  Thus the Addrexes of the world will only be able to exist
by bleeding the small providers dry who can't stop kicking the IPv4
can down the road.  Once IPv4 is over with, these entities will dry up
and blow away.


On 4/20/2011 10:24 PM, Rick McGinley wrote:
>        On Apr 19, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>  > Benson S.'s proposal was not for a new RIR, nor are the Denuo/Addrex
> people proposing a new RIR.
>  > They are proposing to alter the relationship between the address
> registry/allocation function and the
>  > Whois and other post-allocation services functions.
> Milton,
> It's interesting to see you advocating so directly on behalf of Denuo
> and against the RIR system.  We've all been treated to your strongly
> worded and highly critical messages on the PPML and elsewhere about
> various aspects of ARIN policy, IPv4 exhaustion, and related issues.
> I'd like to make sure I understand exactly where you're coming from.
> Most PPML participants  disclose their  financial influences, listing
> our employers, for example, or by reference to consultancies, grants,
> and the like.  But I realize we don't know what financial interests
> motivate you to such fulmination in this area.
> Have you (or your specific projects or grants) received funding from the
> ITU? From the Denuo//Addrex or their related companies?  Any other
> relevant funders, consultancies, or similar that folks might reasonably
> want to be aware of as they read your posts?
>      -Rick
> ____
> Rick McGinley
> Wyoming Education Network
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