[arin-ppml] ARIN-2011-6: Returned IPv4 Addresses - Last Call

Bill Darte BillD at cait.wustl.edu
Tue Apr 19 15:22:08 EDT 2011


> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:11 PM
> To: Chris Grundemann
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2011-6: Returned IPv4 Addresses 
> - Last Call
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Chris Grundemann 
> <cgrundemann at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:50, William Herrin 
> <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> >>
> >> This fundamentally changes the character of the proposal. 
> The point 
> >> of the original proposal was to tell ARIN what to do with returned 
> >> addresses -until further notice-, not to tell them what to 
> do pending 
> >> activity at IANA.
> >>
> >> We don't want addresses returned to IANA. Period. Unconditionally.
> >> Someday we'll change our minds, but not today. Please stop 
> sneaking 
> >> exceptions back in and pretending it's the same policy proposal.
> >
> > I understand that you do not want addresses returned to 
> IANA. Period.
> > But the majority of the community appears to disagree with you. The
> Can you characterize that? I think that this opinion is more 
> related to technicality than intent.
> > community does seem to agree, however, that IPv4 addresses 
> should not 
> > be stranded at the IANA.
> >
> I too believe that the majority of the community does not 
> want addresses stranded at the IANA. Period. They also don't 
> want to buy back addresses that were once in our possession. 
> OTOH, if we don't return addresses to the IANA, that's not an 
> issue for the ARIN region.\

But, that is why there is a transfer policy.  If people choose to offer
their addresses for a consideration, then there is an avenue to do so
and those addresses will remain in ARIN region. But,

If policy exists to return them to ARIN for return to and subsequent
redistribution by IANA, then that choice should be open to them.

Such a IANA return and redistribution policy would have to be in place
and honestly I wish it were, but alas, everyone seems to want the whole
enchilata instead of a piece.


> Best,
> -M<
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