[arin-ppml] ARIN / Microsoft press release regarding IP address Transfers

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Sat Apr 16 03:19:26 EDT 2011

I don't know the details of the agreement and I won't comment or speculate on them.

However, NRPM 8.3 is as follows:

8.3. Transfers to Specified Recipients

In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources within the ARIN region may be released to ARIN by the authorized resource holder, in whole or in part, for transfer to another specified organizational recipient. Such transferred number resources may only be received under RSA by organizations that are within the ARIN region and can demonstrate the need for such resources, as a single aggregate, in the exact amount which they can justify under current ARIN policies.

My understanding, and, I believe staff and the rest of the AC share my understanding,
but, confirmation would be appreciated, is that this means an organization can only
receive through a transfer a single aggregate which matches their demonstrated
need. I do not believe that Stephen's interpretation below matches the meaning or
the intent of the policy as I understand it. As I said, to the best of my knowledge, the rest
of the AC and staff have the same understanding.

I do agree that your interpretation would be a syntactically  and grammatically valid
construction, but, I believe it is contextually nonsensical and not the intended
meaning of the words.

If anyone has a suggestion for making the actual intent more clear, I am open
to suggestions and would support making an editorial correction for clarity.


On Apr 15, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:

> On 15-Apr-11 19:00, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
>> On 4/15/2011 4:30 PM, John Curran wrote:
>>> On Apr 15, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
>>>> Perhaps you are correct, but ARIN staff should be able to confirm
>>>> that they are following policy (i.e. under obligation to the
>>>> members, ICANN, and community) without violating confidentiality. 
>>>> As the bottom-up policy development community, we should be worried
>>>> if they cannot.
>>> From the press release: "ARIN President and CEO John Curran stated he
>>> was pleased that Microsoft has followed the Internet community's
>>> adopted policies for such transfers"
>> The adopted policies (if they are using the "relatively new policy" as
>> alluded to in the release) require the transfer of *a single aggregate*.
> Not quite.  NRPM 8.3 only requires the receiver "demonstrate the need
> for such resources, as a single aggregate", not that a single aggregate
> be transferred.
>> The number of addresses that was in the deal cannot be reconciled with
>> that requirement.
> See above.  Alternately, they could have performed multiple NRPM 8.3
> transfers, each with a single aggregate.
> I'm failing to see the purpose of that clause; it appears to be a NOP.
> S
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