[arin-ppml] ARIN / Microsoft press release regarding IP address Transfers

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Sat Apr 16 01:46:44 EDT 2011

On 4/15/2011 9:53 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> On 15-Apr-11 21:08, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
>> On 4/15/2011 6:06 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>> What concerns me is that this might be an LRSA.  And the way the
>>> release was worded it does not explicitly state that ALL resources in
>>> the transfer fall under this agreement.
>> If indeed the recipient only had to sign an LRSA this would *strongly*
>> suggest that in fact, as I have noted before, legacy resources are
>> more valuable than ARIN-issued ones... and not just to the seller.
> The press release explicitly stated that "The transfer of IP resources
> to Microsoft took place using this relatively new policy."

Clarity dictated that the press release simply state "the transfer of
IP resources to Microsoft took place according to section 8.3 of the
ARIN Number Resource Policy Manual"

  That could
> only refer to NRPM 8.3, the only "relatively new policy" regarding
> transfers.  NRPM 8.3 states " Such transferred number resources may only
> be received under RSA ...."

That section also specifies the resources must be released TO ARIN.  The
bankruptcy documents CLEARLY STATE that the resources WERE NOT released
"TO ARIN" they were SOLD to Microsoft.

> Ergo, Microsoft must have received these resources under RSA.

Not if it went under a Section 8.2 transfer.  From section 8.2:

"...ARIN will consider requests for the transfer of number resources in 
the case..."

"...and acquisitions upon receipt of evidence that the new entity has 
acquired assets that used the transferred resources from the current 

In short, ARIN was notified that Nortel made a transfer to Microsoft and
under section 8.2 has the authority to "consider a request" meaning they
can GRANT a request if they so choose.

Section 8.3 does not mandate an RSA for Section 8.2 transfers.


> Or are you accusing ARIN staff of knowingly violating the NRPM and/or
> ARIN's President and CEO of issuing a fraudulent press release?
> Please, folks, engage your brains for a few seconds before you hit "Send".
> S
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