[arin-ppml] Petition for Discussion of ARIN-prop-136

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Thu Apr 14 10:25:03 EDT 2011

And it's unfortunate that I won't be able to be counted in this
petition. The ARIN AC implemented a "rule" that disallows AC members
from initiating petitions or being counted in support of or in
opposition of petitions.

My apologies to Benson.



On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
> I support this petition.
> Best,
> -M<
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>> The message below started a petition regarding the ARIN Advisory
>> Council's decision to abandon ARIN-prop-136. The AC's decision was
>> posted by ARIN staff to PPML on 23 March 2011.
>> If successful, this petition will change ARIN-prop-136 into a Draft
>> Policy which will be published for adoption discussion on the PPML and
>> at the Public Policy Meeting in October 2011. If the petition fails, the
>> proposal will be closed.
>> For this petition to be successful, the petition needs statements of
>> support from at least 10 different people from 10 different
>> organizations. If you wish to support this petition, post a statement of
>> support to PPML on this thread.
>> The petition will end 20 April 2011. ARIN staff will post the result of
>> the petition to PPML.
>> For more information on starting and participating in petitions, see PDP
>> Petitions at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp_petitions.html
>> The proposal text is below and at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>> The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>> Regards,
>> Communications and Member Services
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>> #####
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>>> Behalf Of Benson Schliesser
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:28 AM
>>> To: ARIN-PPML List
>>> Subject: [arin-ppml] Petition for Discussion of ARIN-prop-136
>>> As the author of ARIN-prop-136, abandoned by the Advisory Council
>>> during their 17-Mar-2011 meeting, I hereby initiate a Discussion
>>> Petition of this proposal per the Policy Development Process.
>>> In support of this petition, I offer the following considerations:
>>> (1) Proposal 136 is fundamentally a recognition of legacy address
>>> holders' rights, including the right of self-determination.  The ARIN
>>> community must recognize the rights of all participants in order to
>>> remain fair and equitable, and should recognize these rights in order
>>> to remain relevant in the Internet ecosystem.
>>> (2) In the event of conflict between ARIN policy and the actions of
>>> legacy address holders, prioritization of Whois data accuracy is in the
>>> community interest.  Cooperation with legacy address holders will be
>>> more effective than attempts at "enforcement" and will result in more
>>> accurate information.  Proposal 136 will enable cooperation with legacy
>>> address holders while maintaining useful information in the distributed
>>> Whois system.
>>> (3) There is pending legal controversy that may be relevant to the ARIN
>>> community, which may materially influence our understanding of legacy
>>> address holders' rights.  Some results of this controversy might emerge
>>> prior to the next public policy meeting, and must be discussed with
>>> appropriate timeliness.  Proposal 136 will provide a much-needed focal
>>> point for such discussion.
>>> Additionally, I would offer the following observation about the process
>>> by which proposal 136 was abandoned:  Specific opinions opposing this
>>> proposal were offered by an ARIN officer, to the AC and others.  These
>>> opinions were offered with an inappropriately definitive tone and may
>>> have influenced the premature abandonment of discussion.  It is in the
>>> interest of the community to continue discussion of this proposal and
>>> to develop a better understanding of the issues.
>>> It is my committed intent, as author and petitioner, to collaborate
>>> with the community on the development of this proposal.  If this
>>> Discussion Petition is successful I will welcome input from the
>>> Advisory Council and ARIN community, as well as other Internet
>>> stakeholders and legal experts.  I look forward to continued discussion
>>> and development of this proposal.
>>> The current text of ARIN-prop-136 is included below, as posted at
>>> http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-February/020159.html for
>>> reference.
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Benson
>>> ## * ##
>>> ARIN-prop-136: Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated Address Blocks
>>> Proposal Originator:  Benson Schliesser
>>> Proposal Version:  1
>>> Date:  23 Feb 2011
>>> Proposal type:  New
>>> Policy term:  Permanent
>>> Policy statement:
>>> Add the following to the NRPM:
>>> 13.  Unaffiliated Address Blocks
>>> 13.x. Opt-out Allowed
>>> ARIN provides IP address registry services to all IP address holders in
>>> the ARIN region, for all IP address resources that are not registered
>>> by
>>> another RIR, regardless of whether any given address holder has entered
>>> into a services agreement.  However, ARIN will cease providing any
>>> registry services for specific IP address resources in the event that
>>> the legitimate address holder of an unaffiliated address block, that is
>>> an address block that is not covered by an ongoing services agreement,
>>> chooses to opt-out of receiving any or all registry services from ARIN.
>>> 13.x.1. Requirements for Whois Opt-out
>>> In order for an opt-out request for Whois directory services to be
>>> valid, the legitimate address holder must agree to provide a
>>> replacement
>>> directory service reflecting operationally accurate allocation and
>>> assignment information for the specified IP number resources.  ARIN
>>> will
>>> create generic placeholder entries in the ARIN Whois directory for all
>>> IP number resources that are removed due to opt-out, and each
>>> placeholder entry will include a reference and/or RWhois referral to
>>> the
>>> replacement directory service.
>>> Rationale:
>>> This proposal does not seek to replace ARIN-prop-133 but is offered as
>>> an exclusive alternative for consideration by the ARIN community, in
>>> order to address concerns that it would unfairly harm legacy address
>>> holders and/or cause unnecessary damage to the Whois database.
>>> Policy Background:
>>> This policy attempts to clarify the relationship that ARIN has with
>>> legacy address holders.
>>> Specifically, this policy recognizes that absent an agreement such as
>>> the RSA or LRSA there is no formal relationship with legacy address
>>> holders.  At present, however, ARIN continues to provide services to
>>> these organizations.  This is done without compensation and potentially
>>> in opposition to the legacy address holders' wishes.  As a result of
>>> this behavior ARIN has created an illusion of implied authority that
>>> exposes ARIN to unacceptable levels of liability, is hindering the
>>> development of an open address market (driving it "underground"), and
>>> is
>>> putting the operational stability of the Internet at risk.  As new
>>> services such as RPKI are contemplated this situation becomes even more
>>> critical.
>>> This policy assumes the tacit consent of all address holders in the
>>> ARIN
>>> region, to receive ARIN registry services and to be governed by ARIN
>>> policy, but allows for legitimate address holders of unaffiliated
>>> address blocks to explicitly opt-out of any and/or all services.  This
>>> approach would allow ARIN to continue providing volunteer services to
>>> any member of the legacy community as long as this service was not
>>> contrary to their wishes.  Further, it would allow legacy address
>>> holders to opt-out of some services such as Whois while continuing to
>>> receive other services such as in-addr DNS reverse mapping.
>>> In the event that a legacy address holder does opt-out of Whois
>>> directory services under this policy, ARIN would require the address
>>> holder to provide a replacement directory service and would continue to
>>> provide a Whois pointer (such as a RWhois referral) to that service.
>>> As
>>> a result, the integrity of the distributed Whois database would remain
>>> intact and be improved.
>>> Timetable for implementation:  Immediately
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