[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-139 No reassignment without network service

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Fri Apr 8 14:48:36 EDT 2011

On Apr 8, 2011, at 11:21 AM, William Herrin wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:56 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>> ARIN-prop-139 No reassignment without network service
>> Proposal Originator: Owen DeLong
>> 2.4 Local Internet Registry (LIR)
>> A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that assigns address space
>> exclusively to the users of the network services that it provides. LIRs
>> are Network Service Providers (ISPs or NSPs), whose customers may
>> include end users and/or other ISPs/NSPs.
>> Rationale:
>> There has been discussion of late as to whether section 2.4 precludes
>> registries which are not ISPs. In the RIPE region, their policy does not
>> currently preclude such registries and there are a number of non-ISP
>> registries which have created significant problems. While there are a
>> few existing organizations in the ARIN region which reassign space
>> without providing connectivity services, these have generally been for
>> the purpose of building exchange points and other such critical
>> infrastructure. As such, current ARIN policy provides mechanisms for
>> such infrastructure organizations to deal directly with ARIN
> Hi Owen,
> This seems a little excessive for a preventative policy as opposed to
> something intended to correct known abuse. How about something softer,
> like:
> "Where a LIR assigns space but does not provide associated network
> connectivity services and the end user of said space qualifies for a
> comparable ARIN assignment, the end user shall have the right to
> convert the registration to a direct ARIN assignment."
> That should discourage the profiteers while facilitating more
> reasonable behavior like Scott Helms'.
I think you're missing the part where what I am proposing is to codify
current ARIN operational practice so that the policy matches what
staff is already doing.


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