[arin-ppml] Proposal 2011-6

cja@daydream.com packetgrrl at gmail.com
Thu Apr 7 15:37:36 EDT 2011

Bill it's not a no-op as it's written. Current ARIN practice is to give back
any recovered /8s to the IANA.  This policy does change that.   It says that
all recovered blocks will be kept in region.   ARIN's staff assessment of
this version spelled that out clearly.  It also clearly states in policy
what ARIN staff currently does with recovered blocks that are longer than a


On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:24 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:22 AM, cja at daydream.com <packetgrrl at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > As the ARIN Public Policy Meeting fast approaches, I wish to once more
> reach
> > out to the community for comments and insight related to Draft Policy
> 2011-6
> > for which Chris Grundemann and I are the designated shepherds on the
> > Advisory Council.
> >
> > We would like to hear support or objection or any experience from ARIN or
> > world community that can provide a better vetting before and during the
> > meeting.  This, so that when the AC must decide its fate, this Draft
> Policy
> > will be positioned for its obvious and best disposition.
> > 4.1.9 Returned IPv4 Addresses
> >
> >] Except where otherwise directed by policy; all IPv4 addresses returned
> to,
> >] recovered, or revoked by ARIN will be made
> >] available for allocation or assignment in the ARIN region as quickly as
> >] practicable.
> Hi Cathy,
> As I understood Marty's intentions when he wrote the original version
> of this policy (and he's free to correct me if I'm mistaken), his
> intention was to specify that no addresses recovered by ARIN are to be
> returned to IANA unless directed by other policy in the NRPM (of which
> there currently is none). This differs from current ARIN practice.
> Reading the debate, this intention enjoyed significant popular support
> -- any IPv4 addresses we can get our hands on are needed in this
> region for the foreseeable future.
> In their review, ARIN staff asked Marty to spell out what addresses if
> any should be returned to IANA under this policy. That is,
> specifically say "ARIN shall not designate addresses for return to
> IANA unless explicitly directed to do so by other ARIN policy."
> As presently written, the draft does not state whether it offers
> direction to ARIN with respect to returning addresses to IANA. In
> fact, as presently written the draft is largely a no-op: of course
> ARIN will make recovered addresses promptly available.
> For clarity's sake, the draft should be updated/rewritten so that it
> guides ARIN with respect to returning addresses to IANA.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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