[arin-ppml] Call for a study & survey to obtain necessary information for policy development

[Owen DeLong]

I would support doing such a study if it could be done for less than $10,000
or if Mr. Lyon wanted to reimburse ARIN the costs of the study.

Owen

On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:51 AM, John Curran wrote:

> PPML Folks - 
> 
>   Apologies for top-posting, but Mr. Lyon's message which follows
>   contains a specific call for ARIN to charter a study including 
>   a survey in order to obtain additional information to assist in 
>   policy development.
> 
>   I've not seen any discussion of this suggestion; would it be 
>   possible to get feedback from the otherwise shy participants
>   on the PPML mailing list? 
> 
> Thanks!
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
> 
> 
> On Apr 29, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I would like to go on record and state my position in support Mike
>> Burns' idea that IPv4 resources be transitioned into an open market
>> exchange. Realizing that i'm making this recommendation without proper
>> data and generally going against the current what we should do is
>> charter ARIN to conduct a comprehensive study and:
>> 
>> - Conduct a survey of the public at large, PPML users, full members,
>> resource holders, and the AC to gain a clear understanding of
>> sentiment for or against an open market.
>> - In the survey, ask IPv4 resource holders to anonymously disclose
>> their true utilization rates and determine if companies are hoarding
>> resources either in hopes of future resale or to cover an arbitrary
>> future need.
>> - Determine the amount of participants that would come forward if told
>> they could resell their space on the open market and ultimately
>> determine how much unneeded space is being locked away in loosely
>> justified allocations.
>> - Determine how many companies actually have IPv6 migration plans and
>> ascertain road blocks, either legitimate or financial, that are
>> preventing migration.
>> - Determine the economic impact. Would resource holders be better off
>> selling their resources to more affluent companies who would be able
>> to put the space to better use? Might there be a host of struggling
>> small businesses who would like to put their /17 - /21 on the balance
>> sheet? Are there companies that would purchase IPv4 space at a premium
>> if allowed to do so?
>> - Determine if resource holders would be encouraged to tighten up
>> internal policies and free up more space if there were a fair market
>> value assigned to their space.
>> - Would resource holders support a model that allowed ARIN to take a
>> small commission on resource sales and then discontinue the practice
>> of charging an annual fee to its members who are not buying and
>> selling resources.
>> 
>> I'm sure I have colleagues here that could help refine what this study
>> would hope to achieve or provide ideas for other data that can be
>> tracked.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> -- 
>> Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
>> jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net
>> Black Lotus Communications - AS32421
>> First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions
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