[arin-ppml] AC term limits? (Was: Curious about consensus)

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Sun Apr 24 20:43:59 EDT 2011


It would be interesting to consider for both the AC and the BoT.

Best,

-M<



On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, looks like it would require a change to Article VI Section 4 of
> the bylaws to change the current rule that AC members "may be elected
> to serve multiple terms."
>
> Not sure if any of the other PDP changes being considered would also
> require bylaws changes, or if this would be a different animal, but it
> seems like something that should at least be considered when deciding
> how the PDP should work.  (And I'm guessing it is already being
> considered along with everything else.)
>
> Scott
>
> On Apr 24, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is this really a PDP issue over a by-law change?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 24, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Leo Bicknell <bicknell at ufp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip lots of good insights on gauging consensus>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is also for these reasons I now urge those who have been on the
>>>> AC for 2+ terms to consider stepping aside and letting someone else
>>>> do the job.  In the hyper-policy enviornment of the AC there are a
>>>> lot of things thrown at you the normal community might not notice.
>>>> You'll have long discussions with other AC members about minute
>>>> details that 90% of the community would never even care about.  It's
>>>> very easy to let your mental "center" drift from the community's
>>>> "center".
>>>>
>>>> That's not to say I think anyone there is doing a bad job, just
>>>> that I think it's in the communities interest to insure we both
>>>> never burn out some of our most passionate individuals, and also
>>>> keep fresh perspectives going into the AC.
>>>
>>> Have you discussed with any members of the PDP committee the
>>> possibility of adding term limits to the PDP?  It would seem to me
>>> that if the community (and/or the membership) decided that it was
>>> better not to have AC members serve more than N consecutive terms
>>> without taking at least a year off, then it would be better to make
>>> that a rule, rather than just encouraging AC members to consider
>>> stepping aside on their own.
>>>
>>> One other thing to keep in mind when considering the desirability of
>>> such a rule would be how long we expect the current abundance of
>>> well-qualified AC candidates to continue.  Up until the last couple
>>> years, the NomCom has always had to go looking for candidates and
>>> encourage them to consider running for the AC.  In that sort of
>>> environment, limiting the pool of available candidates with a term
>>> limits rule could make it a lot harder to find enough qualified
>>> candidates.
>>>
>>> I would also encourage anyone who feels that we need more new AC
>>> members to help recruit the best-qualified candidates to run, and
>>> speak up with statements of support for new candidates who you think
>>> are well-qualified and would bring helpful new perspectives to the AC.
>>>
>>> -Scott
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