[arin-ppml] IPV6, Not yet (OT)

[Owen DeLong]

You are assuming goals not in evidence. I don't seek to harm the vendor.
I don't seek to help the vendor. If the result is equal amounts of help and
harm, then, my lack of desire on either of these goals is roughly met.

I seek to encourage vendors to do the right thing and add IPv6 capabilities
to their products. I seek to help others be aware of which products are and
are not worthy of their purchasing dollars based on their IPv6 capabilities.

As such, I think that publicly naming the vendors is much better than not
naming them.

Owen


Sent from my iPad

On Apr 14, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:

> 
> Well, here is a video of a Transition Networks guy
> saying at least one of their Ethernet switches is IPv6
> capable:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tw_uJXv00
> 
> Now in answer to your other question as to why people
> don't name names, it is because there is a saying among marketing folks:
> 
> "bad news is better than NO news"
> 
> I've also heard it expressed:
> 
> "good news is good, but bad news is also good!"
> 
> Think for a moment that this list is archived.  So a web robot
> will be crawling the archive sooner or later and come across
> the vendor name.  That will give the vendor a boost in the
> search engines.  So by publicly naming the vendor, you
> probably help them as much as you harm them.
> 
> You should also keep in mind the old adage about sales
> and marketing people:
> 
> "When do you know when a marketing or sales person is lying?"
> 
> "When their lips are moving!" ;-)
> 
> 
> Ted
> 
> On 4/14/2011 10:13 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote:
>> I don't understand why people feel it necessary not to shame these
>> vendors in public. I would like to remove them from my list as well.
>> 
>> /Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless/
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original message-----
>> 
>>    *From: *Larry Ash <lar at mwtcorp.net>*
>>    To: *arin-ppml at arin.net*
>>    Sent: *Thu, Apr 14, 2011 16:31:25 GMT+00:00*
>>    Subject: *[arin-ppml] IPV6, Not yet (OT)
>> 
>>    Sorry for the distraction,
>>    I send this along only to remind those of us that maintain IPV4 will
>>    die shortly,
>> 
>>    Before purchasing switching equipment for the customer edge on a
>>    metro-ethernet
>>    deployment I questioned the manufacturer about IPV6 and here was the
>>    reply.
>> 
>>    -----------------------------------------------
>>    The information I received from the Product Management team is that
>>    IPV6 is
>>    not on the road map for this product at this time. If you need any other
>>    assistance please contact us.
>>    ---------------------------------
>>    This is a fairly new product that has a lot of sexy features many of
>>    which
>>    rely on layer3 yet the manufacturer is not even planning IPV6. I did
>>    inform
>>    them that I am removing them from any consideration for any of their
>>    products.
>> 
>>    The word is still not getting to management in a meaningful way.
>> 
>>    Larry Ash
>>    Network Administrator
>>    Mountain West Telephone
>>    123 W 1st St.
>>    Casper, WY 82601
>>    Office 307 233-8387
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