[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-139 No reassignment without network service

[Scott Helms]

Scott,

     Here was my post from Feb of this year on the topic:

http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-February/019600.html



On 4/8/2011 11:41 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:06 AM, Scott Helms<khelms at zcorum.com>  wrote:
>
>> I don't think the problems that RIPE (and not ARIN) has experienced would justify them adopting a measure this draconian much less ARIN which hasn't AFAIK seen anything like what is described.  I believe we discussed this topic, at length, a couple of months back and the near universal agreement was that little if any harm had been documented while much good and potential good had been.
> I don't recall discussing any specific instances of ARIN-allocated IP
> space being reassigned to an organization that has reassigned it to
> non-connected parties to meet a need that is not met by current ARIN
> policy.  I can certainly imagine that such parties exist, though, so
> I'd be interested to hear who they are and/or what kind of
> organizations they've been reassigning address space to.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>>   I personally don't have a problem if some of the language is tightened up to ensure that all LIRs, connected or not, enforce ARIN's rules to those they reassign addresses to.
>>
>> On 4/7/2011 3:56 PM, ARIN wrote:
>>> ARIN-prop-139 No reassignment without network service
>>>
>>> ARIN received the following policy proposal and is posting it to the
>>> Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) in accordance with the Policy
>>> Development Process.
>>>
>>> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
>>> regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
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>>>
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>>> ## * ##
>>>
>>>
>>> ARIN-prop-139 No reassignment without network service
>>>
>>> Proposal Originator: Owen DeLong
>>>
>>> Proposal Version: 1
>>>
>>> Date: 7 April 2011
>>>
>>> Proposal type: modify
>>>
>>> Policy term: permanent
>>>
>>> Policy statement:
>>>
>>> Replace section 2.4 which currently reads:
>>>
>>> 2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR)
>>>
>>> A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that primarily assigns address
>>> space to the users of the network services that it provides. LIRs are
>>> generally Internet Service Providers (ISPs), whose customers are
>>> primarily end users and possibly other ISPs.
>>>
>>> With:
>>>
>>> 2.4 Local Internet Registry (LIR)
>>>
>>> A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that assigns address space
>>> exclusively to the users of the network services that it provides. LIRs
>>> are Network Service Providers (ISPs or NSPs), whose customers may
>>> include end users and/or other ISPs/NSPs.
>>>
>>> Rationale:
>>>
>>> There has been discussion of late as to whether section 2.4 precludes
>>> registries which are not ISPs. In the RIPE region, their policy does not
>>> currently preclude such registries and there are a number of non-ISP
>>> registries which have created significant problems. While there are a
>>> few existing organizations in the ARIN region which reassign space
>>> without providing connectivity services, these have generally been for
>>> the purpose of building exchange points and other such critical
>>> infrastructure. As such, current ARIN policy provides mechanisms for
>>> such infrastructure organizations to deal directly with ARIN
>>>
>>> Current ARIN staff interpretation of section 2.4 is in line with the new
>>> proposed language. As such, this change will not have an operational
>>> impact, but, only serves to bring the policy language in line with
>>> current operational practice.
>>>
>>> Timetable for implementation:
>>>
>>> In effect, this policy is already implemented. For policy purposes,
>>> immediate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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