[arin-ppml] Support for ARIN Proposal 2011-3

[Randy Carpenter]

I think I could live with it either way, but would prefer it be removed. But, only if that will not hinder it's quick approval.

If the policy is not passed quickly, I fear that it will hinder widespread adoption. Many of my ISP customers are waiting for this policy to be adopted before getting their allocations. They feel that there is no benefit from getting the default (too small) /32 and deploying it now, only to have to renumber and give it back soon.


-Randy

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----- Original Message -----
> As the author of the proposal, I am all for removing that clause.
> 
> Full disclosure, my day job stands to benefit substantially from
> removing that clause.
> 
> The clause was placed there to parallel previous policies based on
> community opposition in the past to duplicate assignments without
> requirement for return. I think this is more applicable in IPv4 than
> in IPv6.
> 
> In short, I support Dan's recommended change.
> 
> Owen
> 
> On Apr 6, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Alexander, Daniel wrote:
> 
> > 
> > There is a discussion on the AC list regarding 2011-3 that I would
> > like to
> > bring to this mailing list. Please let me know your thoughts.
> > 
> > In the proposed language for section 6.5.7 there is a renumbering
> > clause,
> > "...provided that they agree to renumber into that new allocation
> > and
> > return their prior allocation(s) within 5 years."
> > 
> > Does anyone take issue if this condition were missing from the
> > proposal
> > since it applies to a limited set of cases. ARIN's method of
> > assignment
> > should allow for most organizations, who already have allocations,
> > to
> > expand into the new policy without a renumber requirement.
> > 
> > Should those providers that would like to utilize this new
> > approach, but
> > are bound because their existing allocations are adjacent to other
> > ARIN
> > assignments, incur the renumbering costs and obligations simply
> > because
> > they deployed IPv6 earlier in the policy evolution?
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > Dan Alexander
> > 
> > 
> > On 4/4/11 2:24 PM, "Steve Howard" <showard at paulbunyan.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> I cannot attend ARIN XXVII, but would like to publicly state my
> >> support
> >> for ARIN proposal 2011-3.
> >> 
> >> This proposal addresses issues that we have encountered in
> >> planning our
> >> IPv6 deployment. We have about 50 POPs (mostly rural) ranging in
> >> size
> >> from a few customers to several thousand. A /32 is too small for
> >> us to
> >> use and leave room for future expansion without re-numbering
> >> later.
> >> Renumbering seems like it would be easier with IPv6 than IPv4, but
> >> it is
> >> still a hassle for our customers that we would rather avoid. We
> >> have
> >> delayed our deployment of IPv6 while we wait to see what happens
> >> with
> >> proposal 2011-3.  It makes more sense for us to deploy IPv6 right
> >> the
> >> first time!
> >> 
> >> My hope is that 2011-3 moves forward and we can get a new
> >> assignment in
> >> time to have IPv6 available to several thousand customers prior to
> >> World
> >> IPv6 day!
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >>  Steve
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ---
> >> Steve Howard
> >> Paul Bunyan Communications
> >> http://paulbunyan.net
> >> 
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