[arin-ppml] Preemptive IPv6 assignment

Gary T. Giesen ggiesen at akn.ca
Tue Oct 12 14:32:14 EDT 2010

I would say that doing something like APNIC has done (one-click
allocation of v6) is far more useful than summarily handing out
allocations to everyone that you "think" needs one.


On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 14:15 -0400, William Herrin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Brian Johnson <bjohnson at drtel.com> wrote:
> >>"Why not look in the BGP table, take every announced ARIN AS number
> >>and preemptively assign IPv6 addresses to each associated organization
> >>that doesn't already have them? Not forever of course... give it three
> >>years and then the assignments evaporate unless claimed by signing an
> >>RSA and paying the annual fees."
> >
> > AS assignment != demonstrated need.
> Brian,
> I agree. That's why I said _announced_ AS numbers, not merely assigned.
> If there's a credible reason to believe that folks announcing IPv4
> routes with their own AS number today will radically change course and
> deploy IPv6 without announcing their own IPv6 routes tomorrow, I
> haven't heard it yet. Have you?
> I claim that anyone actually announcing routes with a registry AS
> number has demonstrated a defacto need for registry IPv6 addresses.
> How does it benefit you and how does it benefit me to wait until the
> 75% of ISPs that haven't signed on yet get around to asking for IPv6
> addresses? It doesn't! Your successful deployment of IPv6 is tied to
> theirs. Let's get the allocation process done. These are folks who
> won't begin their IPv6 deployment until _after_ they have IPv6
> addresses in hand. Every day you save in their deployment process
> benefits _you_.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin

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