[arin-ppml] Preemptive IPv6 assignment
kkargel at polartel.com
Thu Oct 7 15:00:12 EDT 2010
Agreed -- assignment is not deployment.
What I do think about preemptive assignment is that there are quite a few netadmins who would experiment with something they happen to already have and are just not motivated to jump through the hoops to get an allocation.
Premptive allocation that would put IPv6 blocks in the hands of netadmins without the need to do paperwork or argue through the bureaucracy for authorization would IMHO further IPv6 adoption.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Heather Schiller
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:41 PM
> To: William Herrin
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Preemptive IPv6 assignment
> Obtaining v6 address space is not the problem, deployment is. Giving
> people IPv6 space is *not* the same thing as deployment. If getting
> space is the problem, that should be addressed in policy. Unlike a
> couple of years ago, we aren't hearing a cacophony of folks who can
> not get an IPv6 prefix. It's likely that most people who want space
> can get it, more importantly they can get it in a timely manner that
> would not interfere with their deployment plans. Massively assigning
> space doesn't come with a person to design your addressing plan,
> updated software tools to support and configure, or turn v6 on your
> In fact, I would argue against forced assignment - because monitoring
> number of requests from the RIR may be a useful measure of potential
> v6 adoption - if nothing else, it's an indication of the number of
> organizations who have given it enough consideration to request a
> prefix. By letting folks request v6 on their own, you have a handy
> list of folks who need outreach.
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:46 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > Over the course of the week I've had the opportunity to talk to a
> > number of wonderful folks in the operator community here at the
> > meeting in Atlanta. As expected we often talked of IPv6 and in some
> > cases the conversation wandered to a question that has puzzled me for
> > some time:
> > "Why not look in the BGP table, take every announced ARIN AS number
> > and preemptively assign IPv6 addresses to each associated organization
> > that doesn't already have them? Not forever of course... give it three
> > years and then the assignments evaporate unless claimed by signing an
> > RSA and paying the annual fees."
> > When I posed this question the responses were largely variants on,
> > "That would make too much sense."
> > So I put it to the list. Have we some stick rammed far enough up our
> > collective backside that we're willing to tell people: you MUST deploy
> > IPv6, it alone will save the Internet's soul. And oh by the way you
> > need our permission to start for real. So fill out the form, make your
> > checks payable and we'll get back to you.
> > For your consideration,
> > Bill Herrin
> > --
> > William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com bill at herrin.us
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> > Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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