[arin-ppml] Preemptive IPv6 assignment

[Gary Giesen]

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>Maybe we could consider auto assignments to all new applicants for ASN's
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>well?

Not everyone who has an ASN necessarily wants the expense of their own
block (consider end users).

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>Best,
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>-M<
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>> Premptive allocation that would put IPv6 blocks in the hands of
>>netadmins
>> without the need to do paperwork or argue through the bureaucracy for
>> authorization would IMHO further IPv6 adoption.
>> 
>> Kevin
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>>> Behalf Of Heather Schiller
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:41 PM
>>> To: William Herrin
>>> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
>>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Preemptive IPv6 assignment
>>> 
>>> Obtaining v6 address space is not the problem, deployment is.  Giving
>>> people IPv6 space is *not* the same thing as deployment.  If getting
>>> space is the problem, that should be addressed in policy.  Unlike a
>>> couple of years ago, we aren't hearing a cacophony of folks who can
>>> not get an IPv6 prefix.  It's likely that most people who want space
>>> can get it, more importantly they can get it in a timely manner that
>>> would not interfere with their deployment plans.   Massively assigning
>>> space doesn't come with a person to design your addressing plan,
>>> updated software tools to support and configure, or turn v6 on your
>>> routers.
>>> 
>>> In fact, I would argue against forced assignment - because monitoring
>>> number of requests from the RIR may be a useful measure of potential
>>> v6 adoption - if nothing else, it's an indication of the number of
>>> organizations who have given it enough consideration to request a
>>> prefix.  By letting folks request v6 on their own, you have a handy
>>> list of folks who need outreach.
>>> 
>>> --Heather
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:46 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> 
>>>> Over the course of the week I've had the opportunity to talk to a
>>>> number of wonderful folks in the operator community here at the
>>>> meeting in Atlanta. As expected we often talked of IPv6 and in some
>>>> cases the conversation wandered to a question that has puzzled me for
>>>> some time:
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>>>> "Why not look in the BGP table, take every announced ARIN AS number
>>>> and preemptively assign IPv6 addresses to each associated organization
>>>> that doesn't already have them? Not forever of course... give it three
>>>> years and then the assignments evaporate unless claimed by signing an
>>>> RSA and paying the annual fees."
>>>> 
>>>> When I posed this question the responses were largely variants on,
>>>> "That would make too much sense."
>>>> 
>>>> So I put it to the list. Have we some stick rammed far enough up our
>>>> collective backside that we're willing to tell people: you MUST deploy
>>>> IPv6, it alone will save the Internet's soul. And oh by the way you
>>>> need our permission to start for real. So fill out the form, make your
>>>> checks payable and we'll get back to you.
>>>> 
>>>> For your consideration,
>>>> Bill Herrin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com  bill at herrin.us
>>>> 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
>>>> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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