[arin-ppml] REQUEST FOR ARIN STAFF Was: Re: Policy Proposal 120: Protecting Number Resources

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Wed Nov 10 18:29:27 EST 2010

On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:46 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:55 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 10, 2010, at 2:10 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>> It occurred to me that would be the more interesting number for this
>>> discussion. How many blocks, not total size, and only the ones
>>> reclaimed for non-payment. I'd also like to see the minimum, median
>>> and maximum length of time that the blocks were registered before
>>> reclamation. With those numbers it should be possible to make a decent
>>> SWAG as to how many blocks actually are abandoned down in the legacy
>>> pools.
>> I've sent the number of blocks reclaimed, but do not believe that we
>> will be able to easily generate statistics about the length of time
>> registered prior to reclamation (i.e. it may require manual collation
>> to generate.)  I will look into it.
> Hi John,
> If you have an ability to publish the whois records as they existed
> when the blocks were reclaimed, they should have the information. If
> your database has an audit trail then they should still be there with
> the addition of a deletion date.

Bill - 
  I'm certain it is possible to generate, the question is level of effort
  to produce it (which I'll need to research in order to respond usefully)

  Note that those organizations that have signed LRSA's or RSA's and did
  pay for some period of time may not be at all similar to those who hold   
  legacy resources and have never entered into any agreement with ARIN. 
  For example, ARIN's accounts receivable practices have changed over 
  time, and there are surges in number of revocations and the apparent 
  "duration of resource use" in some years that can be attributed as a 
  result.  Those legacy holders who never entered into any agreement 
  with ARIN are unlikely to care about our billing practices, and their
  "abandonment" of a resource is more likely to be driven by particular 
  circumstances as opposed to ARIN reminding them of an overdue bill for 
  registration service fees.


John Curran
President and CEO

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