[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 120: Protecting Number Resources
owen at delong.com
Tue Nov 9 12:45:34 EST 2010
My understanding is that it means space allocated to an organization
which no longer exists.
This would hold true regardless of RSA status (which is what I think you
meant rather than NPRM).
On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
> I would very much like to understand the meaning of the term "abandoned"
> in this context. Does it mean, for instance, that the address space is
> not routed or that there is no NPRM signed to cover that space?
> On 11/6/10 2:43 PM, ARIN wrote:
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>> Policy Proposal 120: Protecting Number Resources
>> Proposal Originator: Leo Bicknell
>> Proposal Version: 1.0
>> Date: 5 November 2010
>> Proposal type: new
>> Policy term: permanent
>> Policy statement:
>> ARIN shall use any reasonable and practical methods to proactively
>> look for fraudulently obtained or abandoned number resources and
>> seek the return of those resources to ARIN.
>> A report of activities under this policy shall be delivered at each
>> ARIN meeting.
>> ARIN has generally only reactively looked for fraudulently obtained
>> or abandoned number resources, generally via reports to
>> While it is great for ARIN to take these community reports, ARIN
>> can be in a far better position to know which resources were
>> fraudulently obtained or abandoned due to the additional paperwork
>> that ARIN holds which is not available to the public, and the record
>> of interactions (or lack thereof) with the resource holder.
>> ] From: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
>> ] To: Leo Bicknell <bicknell at ufp.org>
>> ] CC: "arin-ppml at arin.net" <arin-ppml at arin.net>
>> ] Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Audits
>> ] On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
>> ] > What would the community have to get the ARIN staff to go
>> ] > looking for fraud, abuse, defunct companies and other non-compliant
>> ] > uses of the address space?
>> ] As usual: have the community develop an appropriate policy and
>> ensure that
>> ] there is an adequate level of support for the increased ARIN costs
>> ] will appear back as overall service fees) once we get to
>> ] /John
>> I expect the board/executive management will interpret reasonable
>> and practical to be some amount of staff time that is not zero, but
>> will also not "break the bank".
>> I also expect that ARIN will report on the number resources (in the
>> aggregate) that were returned due to this proactive activity, as
>> well as the cost to the members of this activity (again, in the
>> aggregate) so as to obtain feedback if more, or less resources
>> should be used in this area.
>> Timetable for implementation: immediate
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