[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 120: Protecting Number Resources

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Mon Nov 8 17:15:29 EST 2010

I agree with Mr. Herrin and will take it a step further.  " shall use any reasonable and practical" equates to a no-op in policy because it leaves the determination to the executor.  Tasks need to be quantifiable to be measurable.  

I suspect that this would place these efforts at the bottom of the priority list in the 'spare time' category.  

It is great to get this discussion rolling though, Leo. 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of William Herrin
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 9:43 AM
> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 120: Protecting Number Resources
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:43 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> > Policy Proposal 120: Protecting Number Resources
> > Proposal Originator: Leo Bicknell
> >
> > ARIN shall use any reasonable and practical methods to proactively
> > look for fraudulently obtained or abandoned number resources and
> > seek the return of those resources to ARIN.
> Hi Leo,
> Two thoughts I'd like to share...
> This is too open ended for the nature of the topic. How shall ARIN
> look? Spend staff time keeping up with forums where abuse-related
> reports tend to surface? Increase random audits and generally make a
> nuisance of themselves? Something else? For something actionable, and
> something that's not going to create an extra hassle for all of us,
> this should be more specific.
> How big an effort? Should ARIN dedicate 1 individual to proactively
> looking for abuse? 20? 100? As many as it takes until some diminishing
> returns formula kicks in? In a strictly technical sense, there's no
> limit to the amount of manpower that can be spent searching for
> something that might or might not be found. Thus a policy that calls
> for such proactive investigations should specify that upper limit.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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