[arin-ppml] Fraud reporting and self-incrimination

Stephen Sprunk stephen at sprunk.org
Sat Nov 6 11:00:56 EDT 2010

On 05 Nov 2010 22:26, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> On 11/5/2010 8:18 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>> On 05 Nov 2010 21:10, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
>>> On 11/5/10 5:31 PM, "Stephen Sprunk"<stephen at sprunk.org>  wrote:
>>>> On 05 Nov 2010 15:30, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>>>> ... secure a guarantee from ARIN that he would NOT be prosecuted
>>>>> for breaking the law. ...
>>>> My understanding is that only the relevant District or US Attorney
>>>> can offer immunity against criminal prosecution.
>>> I don't see the word "criminal" anywhere on the Fraud Reporting Page:
>>>      https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/index.html
>>> I'd be interested to know what constitutes criminal fraud with
>>> respect to
>>> utilization or application misstatements.
>> The wording I was responding to, shown in the quote above (reduced for
>> clarity), was specifically about being "prosecuted for breaking the
>> law", i.e. a criminal case.
> I really think there is too much reliance on whether or not it is
> criminal.  Fraud is one of those crimes that the DA has wide leeway to
> prosecute and we all know this.  DA's tell corporations all of the
> time that they aren't going to go after people who break contracts
> with the corporation, and it's up to the corp. to sue them in civil
> court - even when the corp can produce obvious evidence that there was
> fraudulent intent to break the contract.

Whether or not that is true, ARIN cannot _guarantee_ a whistle-blower
that they will not be prosecuted.


Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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