[arin-ppml] Fraud reporting and self-incrimination

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Fri Nov 5 23:26:46 EDT 2010

On 11/5/2010 8:18 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> On 05 Nov 2010 21:10, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
>> On 11/5/10 5:31 PM, "Stephen Sprunk"<stephen at sprunk.org>  wrote:
>>> On 05 Nov 2010 15:30, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>>> ... secure a guarantee from ARIN that he would NOT be prosecuted for breaking the law. ...
>>> My understanding is that only the relevant District or US Attorney can offer immunity against criminal prosecution.
>> I don't see the word "criminal" anywhere on the Fraud Reporting Page:
>>      https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/index.html
>> I'd be interested to know what constitutes criminal fraud with respect to
>> utilization or application misstatements.
> The wording I was responding to, shown in the quote above (reduced for
> clarity), was specifically about being "prosecuted for breaking the
> law", i.e. a criminal case.
> S

I really think there is too much reliance on whether or not it is
criminal.  Fraud is one of those crimes that the DA has wide leeway
to prosecute and we all know this.  DA's tell corporations all of the
time that they aren't going to go after people who break contracts
with the corporation, and it's up to the corp. to sue them in civil
court - even when the corp can produce obvious evidence that there
was fraudulent intent to break the contract.


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