[arin-ppml] Reclaiming unused IPv4 space (WAS: Draft Policy 2010-10 (Global Proposal):GlobalPolicy for IPv4 Allocations by the IANA Post Exhaustion- Last Call (textrevised))

Chris Grundemann cgrundemann at gmail.com
Wed Nov 3 13:16:43 EDT 2010

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:02, Leo Bicknell <bicknell at ufp.org> wrote:
> The issue at hand is largely only in the domain of legacy space.
> There is no yearly fee, and thus no mechanism by which ARIN can
> determine that a resource is no longer in use.

Section 3.6 of the NRPM (the result of dp 2008-7), was meant to help
resolve this problem by requiring POCs to respond to an annual "ping."

> In terms of IPv4 runout, I don't believe this is a very interesting
> issue.  What you have is a lot of /24, err "Class C's" when they
> were given out, that were handed to individuals and small businesses
> when they were free for the asking and somewhere along the line the
> company went under, the individual dropped out of the industry, or
> whatnot.  We don't have a problem with "forgotten" /8's.

I suspect class Cs and especially Bs may be worth more than we might
now guess, shortly.

> However, in terms of spammers having space to hijack, and the general
> concept of Stweardship I think this is a significant problem and
> needs to be addressed.  I've long been a proponent that legacy
> holders need to be brought into the fold for this and other reasons.

Hear, here.

> IMHO the minimum that ARIN should do is have yearly contact with
> anyone holding a number resource, including legacy holders.  I don't
> know what the cost is to send a letter, get back a respose and check
> off "yes that person still exists", but I can't imagine it is a
> lot.  I would be very supportive of a policy that caused ARIN to
> charge a fee to legacy holders of $5, or $10 or whatever that cost
> is per year to "keep their database entry current" so the community
> can detect situations like this one.

Wouldn't that require them to sign something (like an LRSA)?


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