[arin-ppml] Comcast

[Heather Schiller]

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
> On 11/8/2010 8:19 PM, Heather Schiller wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt<tedm at ipinc.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2010 6:26 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In message<206001cb7f91$64b8f6e0$2e2ae4a0$@com>,
>>>> "Warren Johnson"<warren at wholesaleinternet.com>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I simply think it is intriguing that a large evangelist and proponent
>>>>> of
>>>>> ipv6 adoption required a gigantic allocation.  It demonstrates the
>>>>> complexity of the issue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just curious... Who is the official keeper of the IPv4 doomsday clock,
>>>> and how much closer to midnite does this allocation put us?
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's a catch-22.  You cannot runout of IPv4 unless you get the Internet
>>> very popular but it's the popularity of the Internet that forces you to
>>> runout of IPv4.
>>>
>>> I frankly am much more interested in what the percentage of that 8
>>> million IPs is free Legacy space and what percentage are they paying
>>> ARIN for?
>>>
>>
>>  Huh?  They got the /9 on 10/21/2010 - which means none of it is
>> legacy and they are paying for all of it.  ...they were probably
>> already billing as an XL ($18k/yr) so it isn't costing them anything
>> extra.
>>
>> No magic here.. anyone can look at the allocation, allocation dates
>> and the resources held under an org id:
>>
>> The allocation:
>> http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CCCH-3.html
>>
>> Resources held under that org-id (including a /13, which would have
>> put them into the XL category prior to the /9 being allocated)
>> http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CCCH-3/nets
>>
>
> Interesting, I didn't realize that they had all of their allocation
> under a single /9
>

/sigh

 They don't have *all of their allocation under a single /9*

Really.. just click the link (I promise it's SFW, no dancing bears, no
exploding malware) http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CCCH-3/nets    It
takes you to ARIN's website and shows you a listing of everything
under that Comcast account.  Which includes the /9, *and* a bunch of
other space.  They probably don't even have all their allocations
under a single org id... lots of companies don't.

PPML is for discussion of policy proposals, not for conjecture or fud
about allocations ARIN has made.


> Obviously Comcast would have never qualified for a /9 when they were
> first getting started.  So they must have renumbered dozens of times
> as they got larger and worked their way up in size, qualifying for
> larger and larger allocations.
>
> It must have been holy hell on their customers to have to go through
> all that renumbering, though.
>
> Ted
>
>>
>>
>>> Ted
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