[arin-ppml] Policy for IANA to hand out v4 post exhaustion question.

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

Martin,

   Please explain how John Sweeting's 5/12 AC statement relates to
this:

   Let me repeat the relevant section:

"... the AC would like to advise the community that unless a proposal 
affecting IPv4 assignments has a compelling benefit for and receives 
strong initial support from the community the AC will most likely choose 
to abandon the proposal..."

   Do you really feel your going to get ARIN support for this?

   Besides that, IANA handed out six /8's in the first 3 months
of this year and has only 18 of them left - and I think 2 of them
went over the last two weeks.  They have now handed out more than
the entire of 2009 and it's not even the 6 month mark.  It's a
virtual certainty that they will hit the 5 /8 mark by the middle of
next year, and then all the remaining /8's will be flushed out -
and IANA will be out of the IPv4 business.

   It's an almost virtual certainty that IPv4 reclamation post-IANA
IPv4 runout will remain at the RIR level.  Why would an RIR give IPv4
"back" to IANA post-IANA runout?

   The sooner that IANA is out of the IPv4 address business the
better.  If you want to discuss reclamation policy then I for one
would NOT support a global IPv4 reclamation policy that applied to
all RIR's.  I'm a fan of IPv4 reclamation but only at the RIR level.

Ted


On 5/19/2010 1:11 PM, marty at akamai.com wrote:
>
>
> Folks,
>
> The hardest part about writing a global policy that instructs the IANA to do
> something is how to make it so that it isn't onerous (costly) and that it is
> fair and balanced. In the interest of trying to get something palatable, I
> wanted to post some work that has transpired on just this issue for comments
> and perhaps some fresh ideas.
>
> For example, hypothetically of course, if the below were to be proposed,
> what would the objections or suggestions to this be? These are not finished
> thoughts, just some text around how all five regions might deem the fairness
> issue.
>
>
> --draft
> X.X.X.X Address Allocation from the Reclaimation Pool when Demand Exceeds
> Supply
>
> When the Reclaimation Pool has less address space than is required to
> fulfill the projected demand, each RIR will be offered an equally sized
> allocation.
>
> Aggregates in the Reclaimation Pool may be divided on a CIDR boundary up to
> the shortest minimum allocation / assignment of each of the RIRs, excluding
> micro-allocations / assignments in order to complete these allocations.
> Addresses that are left over will be held in the Reclaimation Pool until
> additional IP addresses are returned.
>
> --End draft
>
> Of course, this isn't the whole work product, but again I think that aside
> from the politics, this is the hardest part of getting a solid policy
> accepted and implemented.
>
> There was some thought about an option of "When Supply exceed Demand". Does
> anyone think that this condition would be an important consideration in a
> global policy that allows the IANA to allocate returned v4 post exhaustion?
>
>
> I'm hoping to cull a few options from the respective community.
>
> Negative, positive, constructive and amusing feedback appreciated.
>
> Best,
>
> -M<
>
>