[arin-ppml] IPv6 Non-connected networks
mcr at sandelman.ca
Mon Mar 22 16:18:01 EDT 2010
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>>>>> "Leo" == Leo Bicknell <bicknell at ufp.org> writes:
>> It's not one ISP that customer with $$$$ has to convince, but
>> *all* of them. A customer with that much money can certainly
>> afford to buy globablly routable /48, or a /32 or something.
Leo> It's not that a smart, well run company can afford the cost up
Leo> front; they can and will do the right thing.
Leo> Rather, the worry is the company that goes down a ULA path when
Leo> they should not out of ignorance or poor planning. Then, 5, or
Leo> Already communities of interest are choosing the same ISP for
Leo> greater SLA's. They may not need it routed to the global
Leo> Internet, but rather you see ISP's routing these only internal
Leo> to their network and their customers. In essence, the ULA
Sounds like a COIN to me.
Sounds like *PROPER* application of a NCN to me.
What is the problem?
Leo> boundry becomes the ISP, rather than the Enterprise. It's an
Leo> interesting situation, because it doesn't hurt the "global"
Leo> routing table, but it does put much the same pressure on the
Leo> ISP's backbone devices.
ISP gets significant revenue, and significant lock in.
Sounds like a win for the ISP. Said ISP could have used PA space too.
Why should we have a address allocation policy preventing ISPs and
customers from having this routing policy behind closed doors?
Leo> We must plan for those who are short sighted, ignorant, lazy,
Leo> and simply dumb. No, that doesn't mean making their lives
Leo> easier, but it does mean finding ways to prevent them from
Leo> peeing in the pool and making it unsuitable for all.
It's not a pool. It's a VAST OCEAN. It's nice environmentalism to
realize that even the oceans are not infinite, but it's not ARINs place.
What you describe is a ROUTING POLICY.
This concern over theoretical situations that have occured in IPv4-land
only due to significant scarcity and only reported in "heresay" (due to
NDA, etc.) are preventing deployment of IPv6 by many smaller, more
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